Thanks for your comment. It is confusing, which is one of the reasons I'm doing these description files and checking the database. According to Jane's, the "BAR LOCK A" denotes both the P-35 and the P-37 versions. Jane's says the BAR LOCK B is a radar the USSR designated as "P-50". To make it even more confusing, BAR LOCK A is a 2-D radar, while a modification of the P-37M, designated 1L117 is a 3-D radar. However, I've known Jane's to be wrong before. If you have any sources that differ, let me know, as certainly I find disagreements on these description files. I'll be doing a corrections request on these once I get all the community input.PN79 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:49 amI think that P-37 radar has western name Bar Lock B. While its predecessor P-35 is Bar Lock A.CV60 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:27 pm Revised/modified BAR LOCK A radar description for community comment.
OVERVIEW: The P-37 “Metch” radar aka 1RL139 aka BAR LOCK A is a transportable, 2-D early warning and GCI radar operating in the NATO E/F Band (IEEE "S" band).
DETAILS: The P-37 is a transportable, van-mounted mobile radar. It features clutter and asyncronuous jamming protection. Each of the two reflectors is fed by three feeds, resulting in six stacked beams. It can track a minimum of 200 tracks. A D-band (1 to 2 GHz) IFF antenna is attached to the right corner of the upper array.
Specifications:
Frequency: 2.695-2.715, 2.715-2.750; 2.815-2.835, 9.900-2.990, 2.990-3.025; 3.080 -3.125 GHz (high E/low F Band (NATO))
Power output: 650 kW per beam
PRF: 375-750 Hz
Range Resolution: 500 m (range) 0.5° (azimuth)
On/Off time: 7 minutes
Deploy/Stow Time 55 minutes
Detection Ranges: 211 nm (max range )
1 m2 RCS target: 110 nm
100 m alt: 15 nm
500 m, (1 m2 RCS): 38 nm
8000m alt.: 189 nm (Tu-104 sized target)
NOTES: IOC: 1961. The BAR LOCK series is one of the most widely exported Soviet era radars, and remains widely used especially in developing nations. They are typically supplemented by an ODD PAIR or SIDE NET height finding radar. Weapons systems associated with the P-37 include the SA-5 GAMMON, where it provides battalion-level surveillance and acquisition.
SOURCES: Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems 2002-03, "P-35/37 series radars" dtd 02 July 2001; Search and Acquisition Radars (S-Band, X-band)." Air Power Australia. Accessed March 15, 2015. http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Acquisit ... ocId988415 ; "P-35/37 / BAR LOCK." GlobalSecurity.org - Reliable Security Information. Accessed March 15, 2015. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... r-lock.htm ; "BAR LOCK Radar - Encyclopedia Article - Citizendium." Citizendium, the Citizens' Compendium. Accessed March 15, 2015. http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/BAR_LOCK_radar ; P-37 bar lock radar walk around page 1. (n.d.). Prime Portal - The Military Enthusiast & Modeler's Reference Site. https://www.primeportal.net/trucks/carrey/p-37_radar/; P-37 “Bar lock” - Radartutorial. (n.d.). Grundlagen der Radartechnik. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 51.en.html
Currently in game we have unit "P-35" with senzor Bar Lock B (P-37) but in database is already senzor Bar Lock A (P-35) which is however unused /I think, writing this from memory/.
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Regarding 2D and 3D this is complicated. Technically all these radars P-20, P-30, P-35 and P-37 are 2D radars but they have capability to scan different heights and thus get approximate height of aircraft. Currently in game we have only XXX that we don't know height and precise one - ideally these radars would give like 11XXX metres i.e. getting some number but not precise.
Getting to Bar Lock - I like this page with list of soviet radars http://users.sch.gr/dlabaditis/TH/radars/ as it groups them according to their families. Sadly the page is mix of cyrillic and english text - the names of radars are in russian but most of description are in english. Thus see entries "П-35" and "П-37".
They have here also western designation but we cannot be sure that they have it right. But I don't think that P-50 radar is Bar Lock B as P-50 actually predates P-35 and it is relative to P-20 radar - russian wiki has a page for it (use google translate): https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F-50
So I believe that P-35 is Bar Lock A and P-37 Bar Lock B.
Getting to Bar Lock - I like this page with list of soviet radars http://users.sch.gr/dlabaditis/TH/radars/ as it groups them according to their families. Sadly the page is mix of cyrillic and english text - the names of radars are in russian but most of description are in english. Thus see entries "П-35" and "П-37".
They have here also western designation but we cannot be sure that they have it right. But I don't think that P-50 radar is Bar Lock B as P-50 actually predates P-35 and it is relative to P-20 radar - russian wiki has a page for it (use google translate): https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F-50
So I believe that P-35 is Bar Lock A and P-37 Bar Lock B.
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Regarding whether the BAR LOCK is a 2-D or 3-D radar: I agree that the stacked beam capability of the BAR LOCK could qualify it as a 3-D radar (note the Jane's article says this is possible). But the Soviets used to deploy it in conjunction with a ODD PAIR or SIDE NET height finding radar, so they appeared to use it as if it were only a 2-D radar. The http://users.sch.gr/dlabaditis/TH/radars/ source you provided appears to imply the P-35/37 is a 2-D radar, as it clearly lists the 1L117 a 3-D radar, but is silent on the P-35 series. Similarly, an upgrade kit for the P-37 lists it as being a 2-D radar (see attached) .
Regarding the nomenclature issue: The US Army TRADOC Worldwide Equipment Guide (2011) lists the P-50/BAR LOCK B as the radar associated with the SA-5b, indicating that Jane's use of BAR LOCK A for the P-35/P-37 series is correct. In fairness, because this is a unclassified document, it may be that they were simply copying Jane's. However, I believe the TRADOC nomenclature is likely correct, as otherwise 1) it would confuse trainees and 2) the nomenclature would not be classified. (see image below).
In any case, thank you for providing the reference and your comments. This stuff is confusing and sorting through the conflicting data is a challenge, so more "eyes on target" is very helpful.
Regarding the nomenclature issue: The US Army TRADOC Worldwide Equipment Guide (2011) lists the P-50/BAR LOCK B as the radar associated with the SA-5b, indicating that Jane's use of BAR LOCK A for the P-35/P-37 series is correct. In fairness, because this is a unclassified document, it may be that they were simply copying Jane's. However, I believe the TRADOC nomenclature is likely correct, as otherwise 1) it would confuse trainees and 2) the nomenclature would not be classified. (see image below).
In any case, thank you for providing the reference and your comments. This stuff is confusing and sorting through the conflicting data is a challenge, so more "eyes on target" is very helpful.
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I have tried to find more information about P-50 radar but it is scarce. Russian sources however say that development started at the end of 1940s together with P-20 radar (same company was developing them). It also says that P-50 was fixed installation only unlike P-20 which was mobile.
P-35 is child of mid 1950s. This is in contradiction to Jane's which says that P-50 follows P35/37.
CS army didn't have it so I cannot give definitive answer but I am inclined to agree here with russian sources.
Dedicated height finders give much better precision in height measurement so it was preferred to have them.
P-35 is child of mid 1950s. This is in contradiction to Jane's which says that P-50 follows P35/37.
CS army didn't have it so I cannot give definitive answer but I am inclined to agree here with russian sources.
Dedicated height finders give much better precision in height measurement so it was preferred to have them.
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One more thing - in Electronic Warfare Handbook 2008 (available here: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/do ... 1&type=pdf) is Bar Lock described this way (page 92):
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Thanks for the Electronic Warfare Handbook 2008 citation. I'll use the BAR LOCK A/B/C nomenclature they use (which makes a degree of sense given the different waveguides, and how NATO frequently changed designations based on visual distinctions like that). Thank you again. This stuff is fairly obscure. One note: As I was doing this, I discovered that some of the CMO description files are coming up in Google searches. So what we are doing has a (admittedly minor) effect on global knowledge on some of these topics. 
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DRAFT Revised AN/TPS-59 and TPS-59 (V)3 for community review and comment
OVERVIEW: The AN/TPS-59 is a transportable, long-range, 3-D, Active Electronic Elevation Scanning Array (AESA), air search and GCI radar. It operates in the "D" Band.
DETAILS: The AN/TPS-59 is a lightweight tactical GCI and surveillance radar. It is designed to operate with Patriot or Hawk missile batteries, and naval AEGIS systems. It can track up to 500 ABT. ECCM features include frequency agile capability, and psuedo-random Pulse Repetition Frequency (PRF) and pseudo-random beam positioning.
The radar has a solid-state transmitter and a rotating planar array antenna. The antenna uses 54 identical row/feed networks, 27 power supplies, and a digital signal processor to control the beam pattern and process the returned signals. The displays and processors are housed in two standard military shelters.
Specifications:
Frequency: 1.215-1.4 GHz (D Band (NATO), L Band (IEEE))
Power output: 46 kW (peak); 11 kW (average)
PRF: 180 and 625 Hz
Max Altitude Coverage: 100,000 feet
Max Target Speed: Mach 4
Resolution: 100 feet @ 80nm (range)(ABT); 0.17° (ABT), 1.85° (TBM) azimuth; 1000 feet @100nm(ABT) (altitude)
Detection Range
Max Range (ABT): 4-200 nm
Max range, ATC mode: 300 nm
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time: 60 minutes/ 30 min
NOTES: IOC: 1982. Transportable by truck, helicopters. All U.S. TPS-59 radars were decommissioned in September 2020. The AN/TPS-59 was used by the US Marines from 1986-1996. The AN/FPS-117 is a fixed-site version. A variant of the AN/TPS-59 was sold to NATO as the GE-592.
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OVERVIEW: The AN/TPS-59(V)3 is a transportable, long-range, 3-D, Active Electronic Elevation Scanning Array (AESA), air search and GCI radar with an anti-TBM capability. It operates in the "D" Band.
DETAILS: The AN/TPS-59(V)3 is a lightweight tactical GCI and surveillance radar. In the USMC, the AN/TPS-59(V)3 is primarily used to support MAGTF aviation during sustained operations ashore, as part of a joint theater air and missile defense architecture. Weapon systems associated with the AN/TPS-59(V)3 include HAWK and PATRIOT missiles, where it provides TBM radar cues. It can track up to 500 ABT or 50 TBMs. ECCM features include frequency agile capability, and pseudo-random Pulse Repetition Frequency (PRF) and pseudo-random beam positioning.
The radar has a solid-state transmitter and a rotating planar array antenna. The antenna uses 54 identical row/feed networks, 27 power supplies, and a digital signal processor to control the beam pattern and process the returned signals. The displays and processors are housed in a single standard military shelter
Specifications:
Frequency: 1.215-1.4 GHz (D Band (NATO), L Band (IEEE))
Power output: 46 kW (peak); 11 kW (average)
PRF: 180 and 625 Hz
Max Altitude Coverage: 100,000 feet (air breathing targets (ABT); 1,000,000 feet (TBM)
Max Target Speed: Mach 7
Resolution: 100 feet @ 80nm (range)(ABT); 0.17° (ABT), 1.85° (TBM) azimuth; 1000 feet @100nm(ABT) (altitude)
Range, altitude: 1,000,000 feet
Detection Range
Probability of detection: 90% 1m2 RCS target within 200 nm.
Max Range (ABT): 4-200 nm
Max Range (TBM tgt): 4-400 nm
Max range, ATC mode: 300 nm
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time: 60 minutes/ 30 min
NOTES: IOC: 1998. Transportable by truck, helicopters. All U.S. TPS-59 radars were decommissioned in September 2020. The AN/TPS-59(V)3 is transportable on three single-axle trailers, or by helo or C-130. The radar can be integrated with multiple weapon systems including HAWK and Patriot air defense systems. The AN/FPS-117 is a fixed-site version. A variant of the AN/TPS-59 was sold to NATO as the GE-592. Users include the USMC, Egypt, and Bahrain.
SOURCES: Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems 2002-03, "AN/TPS-59(V) tactical radar" 09 November 2001; "AN/TPS-59(V)3 Radar Set." GlobalSecurity.org - Reliable Security Information. Accessed March 22, 2015. http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/sys ... tps-59.htm; Lockheed Martin; The AN/TPS-59(V)3 Tactical Missile Defense Radar System, pg. 2-3, www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/pubs/tps-59.pdf ; Defense Industry Daily. "Bahrain Receives TPS-59 Missile Defense Radar." Accessed December 1, 2013. http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/bah ... dar-04013/ ; AN/TPS-59 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. n.d. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defe ... an-tps-59/ ; USMC. "TM 2000-OD/2C, PRINCIPAL TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF U.S. MARINE CORPS COMMUNICATION-ELECTRONICS EQUIPMENT'. 2005. https://info.publicintelligence.net/USM ... ipment.pdf ; "AN/TPS-59 (V)3 - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 19.en.html. ;"AN/TPS-59 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defe ... an-tps-59/. ;"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems ... 59/a001373. ;"GROUND RADARS (Military Weapons)." What-when-how â�� In Depth Tutorials and Information. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://what-when-how.com/military-weap ... y-weapons/. ;Lockheed Martin. "TPS-59 Fact Sheet." Lockheed Martin Corporation | Lockheed Martin. Last modified 2013. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/ ... 0Sheet.pdf. ; Pike, John. "AN/TPS-59 Specifications." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified 7, 2011. https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/sy ... -specs.htm
OVERVIEW: The AN/TPS-59 is a transportable, long-range, 3-D, Active Electronic Elevation Scanning Array (AESA), air search and GCI radar. It operates in the "D" Band.
DETAILS: The AN/TPS-59 is a lightweight tactical GCI and surveillance radar. It is designed to operate with Patriot or Hawk missile batteries, and naval AEGIS systems. It can track up to 500 ABT. ECCM features include frequency agile capability, and psuedo-random Pulse Repetition Frequency (PRF) and pseudo-random beam positioning.
The radar has a solid-state transmitter and a rotating planar array antenna. The antenna uses 54 identical row/feed networks, 27 power supplies, and a digital signal processor to control the beam pattern and process the returned signals. The displays and processors are housed in two standard military shelters.
Specifications:
Frequency: 1.215-1.4 GHz (D Band (NATO), L Band (IEEE))
Power output: 46 kW (peak); 11 kW (average)
PRF: 180 and 625 Hz
Max Altitude Coverage: 100,000 feet
Max Target Speed: Mach 4
Resolution: 100 feet @ 80nm (range)(ABT); 0.17° (ABT), 1.85° (TBM) azimuth; 1000 feet @100nm(ABT) (altitude)
Detection Range
Max Range (ABT): 4-200 nm
Max range, ATC mode: 300 nm
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time: 60 minutes/ 30 min
NOTES: IOC: 1982. Transportable by truck, helicopters. All U.S. TPS-59 radars were decommissioned in September 2020. The AN/TPS-59 was used by the US Marines from 1986-1996. The AN/FPS-117 is a fixed-site version. A variant of the AN/TPS-59 was sold to NATO as the GE-592.
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OVERVIEW: The AN/TPS-59(V)3 is a transportable, long-range, 3-D, Active Electronic Elevation Scanning Array (AESA), air search and GCI radar with an anti-TBM capability. It operates in the "D" Band.
DETAILS: The AN/TPS-59(V)3 is a lightweight tactical GCI and surveillance radar. In the USMC, the AN/TPS-59(V)3 is primarily used to support MAGTF aviation during sustained operations ashore, as part of a joint theater air and missile defense architecture. Weapon systems associated with the AN/TPS-59(V)3 include HAWK and PATRIOT missiles, where it provides TBM radar cues. It can track up to 500 ABT or 50 TBMs. ECCM features include frequency agile capability, and pseudo-random Pulse Repetition Frequency (PRF) and pseudo-random beam positioning.
The radar has a solid-state transmitter and a rotating planar array antenna. The antenna uses 54 identical row/feed networks, 27 power supplies, and a digital signal processor to control the beam pattern and process the returned signals. The displays and processors are housed in a single standard military shelter
Specifications:
Frequency: 1.215-1.4 GHz (D Band (NATO), L Band (IEEE))
Power output: 46 kW (peak); 11 kW (average)
PRF: 180 and 625 Hz
Max Altitude Coverage: 100,000 feet (air breathing targets (ABT); 1,000,000 feet (TBM)
Max Target Speed: Mach 7
Resolution: 100 feet @ 80nm (range)(ABT); 0.17° (ABT), 1.85° (TBM) azimuth; 1000 feet @100nm(ABT) (altitude)
Range, altitude: 1,000,000 feet
Detection Range
Probability of detection: 90% 1m2 RCS target within 200 nm.
Max Range (ABT): 4-200 nm
Max Range (TBM tgt): 4-400 nm
Max range, ATC mode: 300 nm
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time: 60 minutes/ 30 min
NOTES: IOC: 1998. Transportable by truck, helicopters. All U.S. TPS-59 radars were decommissioned in September 2020. The AN/TPS-59(V)3 is transportable on three single-axle trailers, or by helo or C-130. The radar can be integrated with multiple weapon systems including HAWK and Patriot air defense systems. The AN/FPS-117 is a fixed-site version. A variant of the AN/TPS-59 was sold to NATO as the GE-592. Users include the USMC, Egypt, and Bahrain.
SOURCES: Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems 2002-03, "AN/TPS-59(V) tactical radar" 09 November 2001; "AN/TPS-59(V)3 Radar Set." GlobalSecurity.org - Reliable Security Information. Accessed March 22, 2015. http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/sys ... tps-59.htm; Lockheed Martin; The AN/TPS-59(V)3 Tactical Missile Defense Radar System, pg. 2-3, www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/pubs/tps-59.pdf ; Defense Industry Daily. "Bahrain Receives TPS-59 Missile Defense Radar." Accessed December 1, 2013. http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/bah ... dar-04013/ ; AN/TPS-59 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. n.d. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defe ... an-tps-59/ ; USMC. "TM 2000-OD/2C, PRINCIPAL TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF U.S. MARINE CORPS COMMUNICATION-ELECTRONICS EQUIPMENT'. 2005. https://info.publicintelligence.net/USM ... ipment.pdf ; "AN/TPS-59 (V)3 - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 19.en.html. ;"AN/TPS-59 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defe ... an-tps-59/. ;"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems ... 59/a001373. ;"GROUND RADARS (Military Weapons)." What-when-how â�� In Depth Tutorials and Information. Accessed June 15, 2022. https://what-when-how.com/military-weap ... y-weapons/. ;Lockheed Martin. "TPS-59 Fact Sheet." Lockheed Martin Corporation | Lockheed Martin. Last modified 2013. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/ ... 0Sheet.pdf. ; Pike, John. "AN/TPS-59 Specifications." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified 7, 2011. https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/sy ... -specs.htm
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DRAFT JY-27A radar for community comment. Note: There is not much info on this radar, so any additional sources and information would be appreciated
OVERVIEW: The JY-27A is a transportable, long-range 3-D counter-very-low-observable (CVLO), active phased array surveillance radar operating in the A (NATO) or VHF (IEEE) band
DETAILS: The JY-27A is a 3-D VHF radar employing an active phased array antenna with agile wave beam scanning. It is advertised as being capable of detecting stealth aircraft at a range of up to 270 nm. It is also advertised as being capable of providing TBM early warning. It can track up to 500 targets.
Unlike most VHF radars, the JY-27A is capable of tracking low elevation targets. It reportedly has good anti- jamming characteristics. The radar allegedly has a missile guidance capability, but this is not confirmed.
Specifications:
Frequency: A Band (NATO), VHF Band (IEEE)))
Power output: unknown kW(average); unknown kW (peak)
PRF: unknown pps
Range Resolution: unknown
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time unknown min/ unknown min
Max Range: 310 nm (instrumented)
NOTES: Exported to Pakistan in 2019.
SOURCES: "[Analytics] Nowhere to Hide: Has China Won the Stealth War? – Pan Pacific Agency." Pan Pacific Agency. Last modified November 3, 2019. https://panpacificagency.com/news/china ... ealth-war/. ; "JY-27A - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed June 16, 2022. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 29.en.html. ; "JY-27A Radar Spotted in Pakistan | Jane's Defence Weekly." Strategic Front Forum. Last modified November 22, 2019. https://www.strategicfront.org/forums/t ... ekly.3652/. ; "Military Balance India Vs China, Air Defense Systems Part 2- Chinese Radars." Full Afterburner. Accessed June 16, 2022. https://fullafterburner.weebly.com/next ... ese-radars.
OVERVIEW: The JY-27A is a transportable, long-range 3-D counter-very-low-observable (CVLO), active phased array surveillance radar operating in the A (NATO) or VHF (IEEE) band
DETAILS: The JY-27A is a 3-D VHF radar employing an active phased array antenna with agile wave beam scanning. It is advertised as being capable of detecting stealth aircraft at a range of up to 270 nm. It is also advertised as being capable of providing TBM early warning. It can track up to 500 targets.
Unlike most VHF radars, the JY-27A is capable of tracking low elevation targets. It reportedly has good anti- jamming characteristics. The radar allegedly has a missile guidance capability, but this is not confirmed.
Specifications:
Frequency: A Band (NATO), VHF Band (IEEE)))
Power output: unknown kW(average); unknown kW (peak)
PRF: unknown pps
Range Resolution: unknown
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time unknown min/ unknown min
Max Range: 310 nm (instrumented)
NOTES: Exported to Pakistan in 2019.
SOURCES: "[Analytics] Nowhere to Hide: Has China Won the Stealth War? – Pan Pacific Agency." Pan Pacific Agency. Last modified November 3, 2019. https://panpacificagency.com/news/china ... ealth-war/. ; "JY-27A - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed June 16, 2022. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 29.en.html. ; "JY-27A Radar Spotted in Pakistan | Jane's Defence Weekly." Strategic Front Forum. Last modified November 22, 2019. https://www.strategicfront.org/forums/t ... ekly.3652/. ; "Military Balance India Vs China, Air Defense Systems Part 2- Chinese Radars." Full Afterburner. Accessed June 16, 2022. https://fullafterburner.weebly.com/next ... ese-radars.
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And also to Venezuela detecting a USAF F-22 in 2020, according to several web pages, for example:
https://www.pakdefense.com/blog/china/c ... -airspace/
https://www.pakdefense.com/blog/china/c ... -airspace/
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Thanks-I've added that to the "Notes" sectionNikel wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:32 am And also to Venezuela detecting a USAF F-22 in 2020, according to several web pages, for example:
https://www.pakdefense.com/blog/china/c ... -airspace/
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DRAFT JY-26 radar for community review/comment. Note: there is not much information on this system, so any additional info and/or corrections would be appreciated
OVERVIEW: The JY-26 Skywatcher-U is a long-range, road-mobile/transportable, 3-D AESA phased array surveillance radar primarily for use against stealth aircraft. It operates in the A/B band (NATO) VHF/UHF band (IEEA).
DETAILS: The JY-26 can detect targets presenting low RCS targets at the VHF and UHF wave bands. The phased array technology also provides the ability to increase the power transmitted at a certain location where a target presence is suspected, increasing the probability of detection of targets. It is reported to be able to track 500 targets simultaneously.
The PRC reportedly uses the JY-26 UHF/VHF radar in conjunction with the JY-27A Skywatch-5 VHF-band radar, YLC-8B UHF-band and SLC-7 D-band active phased-array radar to create a robust network of multi-band, anti-stealth radar network, based on the fusion of data from up to three radars to create a robust kill-chain. The VHF radar performs initial detection of a stealth target, cueing an associated UHF radar in the network, which in turn can cue the higher band radars for targeting.
Specifications:
Frequency: 250-350 MHz (A/B Band (NATO), VHF/UHF Band (IEEE))
Power output: ?? kW(average); ?? kW (peak)
PRF: ?? Hz
Range Accuracy: ??
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time 60 minutes/ ?? minutes
Detection Range: 270nm (max)
NOTES: IOC: 2015.
SOURCES: China Uses JY-26 UWB-radar to Track F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters. May 14, 2020. https://www.china-arms.com/2016/01/chin ... -fighters/ ; China’s Anti-Stealth Radar Comes to Fruition. November 22, 2014. https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia ... -fruition/ ; Errymath: Anti-stealth Radars on Display at the Zhuhai Airshow 2016. n.d. https://errymath.blogspot.com/2016/11/a ... 3S7SGhKiUk ; JY-26 - China’s New Counter Stealth Radar - Defense Update:. December 2, 2014. https://defense-update.com/20141111_jy- ... radar.html ; "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed June 18, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/JY-26/a003064. ; "China Claims Its New Anti-Stealth Radars Can Detect the F-22." Popular Mechanics. Last modified November 11, 2016. https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... tect-f-22/. ;"The Tech Route -." Force a Complete News Magazine on National Security. Accessed June 18, 2022. https://forceindia.net/feature-report/the-tech-route/.
OVERVIEW: The JY-26 Skywatcher-U is a long-range, road-mobile/transportable, 3-D AESA phased array surveillance radar primarily for use against stealth aircraft. It operates in the A/B band (NATO) VHF/UHF band (IEEA).
DETAILS: The JY-26 can detect targets presenting low RCS targets at the VHF and UHF wave bands. The phased array technology also provides the ability to increase the power transmitted at a certain location where a target presence is suspected, increasing the probability of detection of targets. It is reported to be able to track 500 targets simultaneously.
The PRC reportedly uses the JY-26 UHF/VHF radar in conjunction with the JY-27A Skywatch-5 VHF-band radar, YLC-8B UHF-band and SLC-7 D-band active phased-array radar to create a robust network of multi-band, anti-stealth radar network, based on the fusion of data from up to three radars to create a robust kill-chain. The VHF radar performs initial detection of a stealth target, cueing an associated UHF radar in the network, which in turn can cue the higher band radars for targeting.
Specifications:
Frequency: 250-350 MHz (A/B Band (NATO), VHF/UHF Band (IEEE))
Power output: ?? kW(average); ?? kW (peak)
PRF: ?? Hz
Range Accuracy: ??
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time 60 minutes/ ?? minutes
Detection Range: 270nm (max)
NOTES: IOC: 2015.
SOURCES: China Uses JY-26 UWB-radar to Track F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters. May 14, 2020. https://www.china-arms.com/2016/01/chin ... -fighters/ ; China’s Anti-Stealth Radar Comes to Fruition. November 22, 2014. https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia ... -fruition/ ; Errymath: Anti-stealth Radars on Display at the Zhuhai Airshow 2016. n.d. https://errymath.blogspot.com/2016/11/a ... 3S7SGhKiUk ; JY-26 - China’s New Counter Stealth Radar - Defense Update:. December 2, 2014. https://defense-update.com/20141111_jy- ... radar.html ; "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed June 18, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/JY-26/a003064. ; "China Claims Its New Anti-Stealth Radars Can Detect the F-22." Popular Mechanics. Last modified November 11, 2016. https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... tect-f-22/. ;"The Tech Route -." Force a Complete News Magazine on National Security. Accessed June 18, 2022. https://forceindia.net/feature-report/the-tech-route/.
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DRAFT DF-26 SSM battalion and DF-26 missile description for community review/comment. Note: there is not much information on these systems, so any additional info and/or corrections would be appreciated
OVERVIEW: The Dong Feng 26C aka DF-26C battalion is a road-mobile IRBM unit, using a single two stage, solid fuel DF-26C missile armed with a 1,200 - 1,800 kg conventional payload or a nuclear warhead.
DETAILS: The DF-26 is based on the DF-21 IRBM. It likely intended for use in long range, war-opening preemptive or suppressive strikes aimed at neutralizing an adversary’s forward forces and military infrastructure including logistics and power projection assets and opportunistic strikes against fleeting high campaign-value targets.
The missile uses inertial guidance and probably both GPS and radar based terminal guidance. The missile's long range, the mobility of the TEL and the likely short setup and take down times significantly reduce the launcher's vulnerability. Additionally, the DF-26 does not require pre-surveyed launch sites, further reducing its vulnerability.
Specifications:
Maximum Range: 2160-2700nm; (est)
CEP: 10-100 meters (est)
Reload time: 12 minutes (est, based on DF-21)
Reaction Time several minutes
Mobility: road mobile
Set Up Time: 10-15 minutes (est, based on DF-21)
NOTES: IOC 2016.
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OVERVIEW: The DF-26Caka Dong Feng 26C is a two-stage, solid fuel, road-mobile IRBM, armed with a 1,200 - 1,800 kg conventional payload or a nuclear warhead.
DETAILS: The DF-26 is based on the DF-21 IRBM. It likely intended for use in long range, war-opening preemptive or suppressive strikes aimed at neutralizing an adversary’s forward forces and military infrastructure including logistics and power projection assets and opportunistic strikes against fleeting high campaign-value targets.
According to China, the DF-26C uses a larger version of the maneuverable warhead used in the DF-21. It is likely that this missile has internal navigation system with indigenous Chinese BeiDou satellite navigation system, although some sources have claimed that guidance inputs may be fed to the missile from a variety of inputs, including satellites, ground, and naval radar, in addition to radar on the missile itself. Accuracy is estimated at between 10-100 m CEP.
The DF-26 is reportedly capable of quickly switching (“hot-swappable”) between a variety of conventional and nuclear payloads. Warheads may include nuclear, conventional explosive, ground penetrators and fuel-air explosives.
Specifications:
Maximum Range: 2160-2700nm; (est)
CEP: 10-100 meters (est)
NOTES: IOC 2016.
SOURCES: DoD "Annual Report to Congress: Military and Security Developments Involving the PRC, 2019" https://media.defense.gov/2019/May/02/2 ... REPORT.pdf, pg. 44; US-CHina Economic and Security Review Commission, "China's Expanding Ability to Conduct Conventional Missile Strikes on Guam" 10 May 2016, https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/file ... 20Guam.pdf ; Administrator. DF-26 Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Data Pictures Video | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK. January 13, 2019. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... 02167.html. ; China Touts Capabilities of DF-26 As ASBM. January 28, 2019. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... 26-as-asbm. ; China Touts Capabilities of DF-26 As ASBM. January 28, 2019. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... 26-as-asbm. ; DF-26 Intermediate-Range Ballistic Missile | Military-Today.com. n.d. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/df_26.htm. ; DF-26 Intermediate-range Missile (The Guam Killer). February 1, 2019. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2019/02/1 ... am-killer/. ; DF-26. August 6, 2021. https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ ... om-11-3522. ; Dong Feng-26 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. n.d. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... ina/df-26/. ; Strategic Weapons: Potential Versus Proven Threats. n.d. https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/hticb ... 90321.aspx.
OVERVIEW: The Dong Feng 26C aka DF-26C battalion is a road-mobile IRBM unit, using a single two stage, solid fuel DF-26C missile armed with a 1,200 - 1,800 kg conventional payload or a nuclear warhead.
DETAILS: The DF-26 is based on the DF-21 IRBM. It likely intended for use in long range, war-opening preemptive or suppressive strikes aimed at neutralizing an adversary’s forward forces and military infrastructure including logistics and power projection assets and opportunistic strikes against fleeting high campaign-value targets.
The missile uses inertial guidance and probably both GPS and radar based terminal guidance. The missile's long range, the mobility of the TEL and the likely short setup and take down times significantly reduce the launcher's vulnerability. Additionally, the DF-26 does not require pre-surveyed launch sites, further reducing its vulnerability.
Specifications:
Maximum Range: 2160-2700nm; (est)
CEP: 10-100 meters (est)
Reload time: 12 minutes (est, based on DF-21)
Reaction Time several minutes
Mobility: road mobile
Set Up Time: 10-15 minutes (est, based on DF-21)
NOTES: IOC 2016.
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OVERVIEW: The DF-26Caka Dong Feng 26C is a two-stage, solid fuel, road-mobile IRBM, armed with a 1,200 - 1,800 kg conventional payload or a nuclear warhead.
DETAILS: The DF-26 is based on the DF-21 IRBM. It likely intended for use in long range, war-opening preemptive or suppressive strikes aimed at neutralizing an adversary’s forward forces and military infrastructure including logistics and power projection assets and opportunistic strikes against fleeting high campaign-value targets.
According to China, the DF-26C uses a larger version of the maneuverable warhead used in the DF-21. It is likely that this missile has internal navigation system with indigenous Chinese BeiDou satellite navigation system, although some sources have claimed that guidance inputs may be fed to the missile from a variety of inputs, including satellites, ground, and naval radar, in addition to radar on the missile itself. Accuracy is estimated at between 10-100 m CEP.
The DF-26 is reportedly capable of quickly switching (“hot-swappable”) between a variety of conventional and nuclear payloads. Warheads may include nuclear, conventional explosive, ground penetrators and fuel-air explosives.
Specifications:
Maximum Range: 2160-2700nm; (est)
CEP: 10-100 meters (est)
NOTES: IOC 2016.
SOURCES: DoD "Annual Report to Congress: Military and Security Developments Involving the PRC, 2019" https://media.defense.gov/2019/May/02/2 ... REPORT.pdf, pg. 44; US-CHina Economic and Security Review Commission, "China's Expanding Ability to Conduct Conventional Missile Strikes on Guam" 10 May 2016, https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/file ... 20Guam.pdf ; Administrator. DF-26 Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Data Pictures Video | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK. January 13, 2019. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... 02167.html. ; China Touts Capabilities of DF-26 As ASBM. January 28, 2019. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... 26-as-asbm. ; China Touts Capabilities of DF-26 As ASBM. January 28, 2019. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... 26-as-asbm. ; DF-26 Intermediate-Range Ballistic Missile | Military-Today.com. n.d. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/df_26.htm. ; DF-26 Intermediate-range Missile (The Guam Killer). February 1, 2019. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2019/02/1 ... am-killer/. ; DF-26. August 6, 2021. https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ ... om-11-3522. ; Dong Feng-26 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. n.d. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... ina/df-26/. ; Strategic Weapons: Potential Versus Proven Threats. n.d. https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/hticb ... 90321.aspx.
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DRAFT Type 055 Destroyer (PLAN) description for community comment
OVERVIEW: The Type 055 aka RENHAI destroyer is a stealthy, two-shaft, COGAG-powered, multi-role, guided missile destroyer.
DETAILS: The Type 055 destroyer is a multi-role ship likely intended to primarily act as an air defense escort for a carrier or amphibious task force, with an emphasis on area air defense, filling a role similar to the USN's TICONDEROGA-class CG. Its range, size, C3 suite and multi-mission capability give it the capability of participating in out-of-area operations as part of a carrier battle group or as the flagship for a SAG or for power projection missions.
According to China, the Type 055's C3 systems are capable of "facilitat[ing] command management of a battlegroup and supporting elements", likely in a flagship role. These facilities are claimed by Chinese sources "to approach the U.S. Navy’s Aegis system" in capability.
The weapons suite includes a large 112-cell multi-role VLS suite, consisting of two launchers with 64 cells forward and 48 amidships. These are capable of firing HQ-9B and HQ-16B SAMs, YJ-18A ASMs, and CJ-10 LACM, and possibly the Yu-8A ASROC. It is rumored as possibly capable of using quadpacked DK-10 SAMs, and may have a ABM capability and/or ASAT capability. Additionally, the vessel has torpedo tubes for the Yu-7, and a 130mm gun. Defense systems include a 30mm CWIS, the HHQ-10 anti-missile system.
The ASW sensor suite includes a probable variable depth and towed array sonar as well as a bow sonar. Aviation facilities consist of a flight deck with RAST capability and hangar allowing operation of two medium-sized Z-9/Z-18/Z-20 ASW helicopters.
The class has a dual-band radar system; four S-band Type 346B Dragon Eye active electronically scanned array (AESA) panels are mounted on the superstructure, and four smaller X-band panels are mounted on the mast. The S-Band portion of the dual-band radar system is used for long range search and track, and are reported as capable of detecting stealth targets. The more sensitive X-band system is used for tracking smaller, stealthier and high-speed or low-level targets with greater accuracy and at shorter ranges. This system also increases redundancy. Chinese sources claim the radar has anti-stealth capability and can be used to guide anti-satellite missiles.
The Type 055 stealthy features include an enclosed forecastle that hides deck gear such as mooring points and anchor chains. A continuous structure along with the integrated mast amidships increases internal volume and reduces radar cross-section. The smokestack design reduces both infrared signature and radar cross-section. Chinese sources also claim the Type 055 also has reduced acoustic and electromagnetic signatures.
SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: 12,000 tons (full)
Speed: 30 kts
Engineering: COGAG, 4XQC-280 gas turbines @28 MW each, 6 QD-50 turbine generators @5 MW each, 2 shafts.
Range: 5,000 nm @ 18 knts.
Endurance: ??
Complement: 300+ crew
NOTES: IOC: 2020. Because of its C3I facilities and multi-role capability, the USN classifies this vessel as a guided missile cruiser. Units in class: NANCHANG (101); LHASA (102); ANSHAN (103); WUXI (104); DALIAN (105); YANAN (106); ZUNYI (107); XIANYANG (108).
SOURCES: Ancile. (n.d.). Ancile. https://www.deagel.com/Fighting%20Ships ... 55/a002885 ; Pay attention to China's type 055 destroyer. (2021, May 14). The National Interest. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboo ... yer-168249 ; Pike, J. (2021, January 8). Type 055 / DDG-X [Area defense project]. GlobalSecurity.org. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... radars.htm ; Type 055 class destroyers. (2020, September 14). Naval Technology. https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... estroyers/ ; Type 055 Renhai class guided missile destroyer DDG China PLAN. (n.d.). Seaforces Online - Naval Information. https://www.seaforces.org/marint/China- ... ss-DDG.htm ;
Type 055-Class (Renhai class) Chinese guided missile cruiser. (n.d.). https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/mediawiki/ ... le_Cruiser ; Zhen, L. (2022, April 22). China quietly put into service 2 more 'bodyguards' for its aircraft carriers. Business Insider. https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese ... ice-2022-4 ; Goldstein, L. J. (n.d.). China maritime report No. 5: China's dreadnought? The PLA navy's type 055 cruiser and its implications for the future maritime security environment. U.S. Naval War College Digital Commons. https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cmsi- ... reports/5/
OVERVIEW: The Type 055 aka RENHAI destroyer is a stealthy, two-shaft, COGAG-powered, multi-role, guided missile destroyer.
DETAILS: The Type 055 destroyer is a multi-role ship likely intended to primarily act as an air defense escort for a carrier or amphibious task force, with an emphasis on area air defense, filling a role similar to the USN's TICONDEROGA-class CG. Its range, size, C3 suite and multi-mission capability give it the capability of participating in out-of-area operations as part of a carrier battle group or as the flagship for a SAG or for power projection missions.
According to China, the Type 055's C3 systems are capable of "facilitat[ing] command management of a battlegroup and supporting elements", likely in a flagship role. These facilities are claimed by Chinese sources "to approach the U.S. Navy’s Aegis system" in capability.
The weapons suite includes a large 112-cell multi-role VLS suite, consisting of two launchers with 64 cells forward and 48 amidships. These are capable of firing HQ-9B and HQ-16B SAMs, YJ-18A ASMs, and CJ-10 LACM, and possibly the Yu-8A ASROC. It is rumored as possibly capable of using quadpacked DK-10 SAMs, and may have a ABM capability and/or ASAT capability. Additionally, the vessel has torpedo tubes for the Yu-7, and a 130mm gun. Defense systems include a 30mm CWIS, the HHQ-10 anti-missile system.
The ASW sensor suite includes a probable variable depth and towed array sonar as well as a bow sonar. Aviation facilities consist of a flight deck with RAST capability and hangar allowing operation of two medium-sized Z-9/Z-18/Z-20 ASW helicopters.
The class has a dual-band radar system; four S-band Type 346B Dragon Eye active electronically scanned array (AESA) panels are mounted on the superstructure, and four smaller X-band panels are mounted on the mast. The S-Band portion of the dual-band radar system is used for long range search and track, and are reported as capable of detecting stealth targets. The more sensitive X-band system is used for tracking smaller, stealthier and high-speed or low-level targets with greater accuracy and at shorter ranges. This system also increases redundancy. Chinese sources claim the radar has anti-stealth capability and can be used to guide anti-satellite missiles.
The Type 055 stealthy features include an enclosed forecastle that hides deck gear such as mooring points and anchor chains. A continuous structure along with the integrated mast amidships increases internal volume and reduces radar cross-section. The smokestack design reduces both infrared signature and radar cross-section. Chinese sources also claim the Type 055 also has reduced acoustic and electromagnetic signatures.
SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: 12,000 tons (full)
Speed: 30 kts
Engineering: COGAG, 4XQC-280 gas turbines @28 MW each, 6 QD-50 turbine generators @5 MW each, 2 shafts.
Range: 5,000 nm @ 18 knts.
Endurance: ??
Complement: 300+ crew
NOTES: IOC: 2020. Because of its C3I facilities and multi-role capability, the USN classifies this vessel as a guided missile cruiser. Units in class: NANCHANG (101); LHASA (102); ANSHAN (103); WUXI (104); DALIAN (105); YANAN (106); ZUNYI (107); XIANYANG (108).
SOURCES: Ancile. (n.d.). Ancile. https://www.deagel.com/Fighting%20Ships ... 55/a002885 ; Pay attention to China's type 055 destroyer. (2021, May 14). The National Interest. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboo ... yer-168249 ; Pike, J. (2021, January 8). Type 055 / DDG-X [Area defense project]. GlobalSecurity.org. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... radars.htm ; Type 055 class destroyers. (2020, September 14). Naval Technology. https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... estroyers/ ; Type 055 Renhai class guided missile destroyer DDG China PLAN. (n.d.). Seaforces Online - Naval Information. https://www.seaforces.org/marint/China- ... ss-DDG.htm ;
Type 055-Class (Renhai class) Chinese guided missile cruiser. (n.d.). https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/mediawiki/ ... le_Cruiser ; Zhen, L. (2022, April 22). China quietly put into service 2 more 'bodyguards' for its aircraft carriers. Business Insider. https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese ... ice-2022-4 ; Goldstein, L. J. (n.d.). China maritime report No. 5: China's dreadnought? The PLA navy's type 055 cruiser and its implications for the future maritime security environment. U.S. Naval War College Digital Commons. https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cmsi- ... reports/5/
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Re: Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions
DRAFT Type 093 aka SHANG I SSN revised description for community comment.
OVERVIEW: The Type 093 aka Type-09III (NATO reporting name: SHANG I) is a nuclear-powered attack submarine.
DETAILS: The Type 093 SSN was likely designed used as an escort for SSBNs and aircraft carrier task forces, as well as for patrol the maritime periphery. Although not as capable or advanced as the latest Western attack submarines, the Type 093 class was a major step forward in China's underwater warfare capability.
The Type 093 uses a water-drop shape hull making it more hydrodynamically efficient and quieter than previous PLAN submarines. Further quieting is achieved by its use of a single shaft and a highly skewed 7-bladed propeller. Although quieter than previous PLAN submarines, the USN evaluates it as being noisier than the Soviet-era VICTOR III SSN.
Sensors include a bow-mounted sonar and six (three on each side) H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar arrays.
Armament includes six 533 or 650 mm bow torpedo tubes, capable of carrying various wire-, acoustic- and wake-homing torpedoes, as well as the YJ-82 anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM).
Specifications:
Displacement: 6,096 tons submerged.
Speed: 30 knots submerged
Machinery: Pressurized Water nuclear reactor. 1 shaft, skewed 7-blade prop
Armament: 6 tubes. Yu-3/Yu-4/Yu-6 torpedoes
YJ-82 ASCMs
Endurance: 80 days
Operational Depth: ???
Maximum Depth: 1312 feet
Complement: 100
Hulls built: 2
NOTES: IOC: 2006. Units in class: 407; 408. The fact that only two hulls were built indicates the PLAN was dissatisfied for some unknown reason with the design.
SOURCES: Office of Naval Intelligence (August 2009). The People’s Liberation Army Navy, A Modern Navy with Chinese Characteristics at https://irp.fas.org/agency/oni/pla-navy.pdf; Pike, J. (2019, 4). Type 093 Shang-class nuclear attack submarine. GlobalSecurity.org. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... ype-93.htm ; Shang class nuclear-powered attack submarine | military-today.com. (n.d.). MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. https://www.military-today.com/navy/shang_class.htm
OVERVIEW: The Type 093 aka Type-09III (NATO reporting name: SHANG I) is a nuclear-powered attack submarine.
DETAILS: The Type 093 SSN was likely designed used as an escort for SSBNs and aircraft carrier task forces, as well as for patrol the maritime periphery. Although not as capable or advanced as the latest Western attack submarines, the Type 093 class was a major step forward in China's underwater warfare capability.
The Type 093 uses a water-drop shape hull making it more hydrodynamically efficient and quieter than previous PLAN submarines. Further quieting is achieved by its use of a single shaft and a highly skewed 7-bladed propeller. Although quieter than previous PLAN submarines, the USN evaluates it as being noisier than the Soviet-era VICTOR III SSN.
Sensors include a bow-mounted sonar and six (three on each side) H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar arrays.
Armament includes six 533 or 650 mm bow torpedo tubes, capable of carrying various wire-, acoustic- and wake-homing torpedoes, as well as the YJ-82 anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM).
Specifications:
Displacement: 6,096 tons submerged.
Speed: 30 knots submerged
Machinery: Pressurized Water nuclear reactor. 1 shaft, skewed 7-blade prop
Armament: 6 tubes. Yu-3/Yu-4/Yu-6 torpedoes
YJ-82 ASCMs
Endurance: 80 days
Operational Depth: ???
Maximum Depth: 1312 feet
Complement: 100
Hulls built: 2
NOTES: IOC: 2006. Units in class: 407; 408. The fact that only two hulls were built indicates the PLAN was dissatisfied for some unknown reason with the design.
SOURCES: Office of Naval Intelligence (August 2009). The People’s Liberation Army Navy, A Modern Navy with Chinese Characteristics at https://irp.fas.org/agency/oni/pla-navy.pdf; Pike, J. (2019, 4). Type 093 Shang-class nuclear attack submarine. GlobalSecurity.org. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... ype-93.htm ; Shang class nuclear-powered attack submarine | military-today.com. (n.d.). MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. https://www.military-today.com/navy/shang_class.htm
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DRAFT description file for Low Altitude Guard II laser (China, Facility_3230). Note: there is not much information on this system. Any additional information would be appreciated.
OVERVIEW: The Low Altitude Guard II (LAG II) is a mobile, anti-drone air defense laser.
DETAILS: The LAG II is a high power, eletro-optical guidance laser system suitable for defending against drones. The EO sensor acquires and track targets autonomously before firing the laser on command from a human operator ("man in the loop").
It is claimed that the LAG II could be upgraded with datalinks and a radar, allowing it to engage high speed targets like rocket artillery and missiles.
Specifications:
Power 30 kW
Maximum Range: 2.16 nm (4 km)
Max target speed: Dependent on targeting sensor.
Kill probability: ??
Mobility: road mobile
Set Up Time: ?? minutes
NOTES: IOC 2016. Can be mounted on medium sized truck, or a 6X6 armored personnel carrier.
SOURCES: China sells a new laser gun. (2021, April 26). Popular Science. https://www.popsci.com/china-sells-new-laser-gun/ ; Low altitude guard II. (n.d.). All About Air Defence. https://www.airdefence.in/weapons/low-a ... -guard-ii/ ; New Chinese laser weapon stars on TV. (2021, April 26). Popular Science. https://www.popsci.com/new-chinese-lase ... ars-on-tv/ ; Pike, J. (2021, April 11). Chinese laser weapons. GlobalSecurity.org. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... /laser.htm ;
OVERVIEW: The Low Altitude Guard II (LAG II) is a mobile, anti-drone air defense laser.
DETAILS: The LAG II is a high power, eletro-optical guidance laser system suitable for defending against drones. The EO sensor acquires and track targets autonomously before firing the laser on command from a human operator ("man in the loop").
It is claimed that the LAG II could be upgraded with datalinks and a radar, allowing it to engage high speed targets like rocket artillery and missiles.
Specifications:
Power 30 kW
Maximum Range: 2.16 nm (4 km)
Max target speed: Dependent on targeting sensor.
Kill probability: ??
Mobility: road mobile
Set Up Time: ?? minutes
NOTES: IOC 2016. Can be mounted on medium sized truck, or a 6X6 armored personnel carrier.
SOURCES: China sells a new laser gun. (2021, April 26). Popular Science. https://www.popsci.com/china-sells-new-laser-gun/ ; Low altitude guard II. (n.d.). All About Air Defence. https://www.airdefence.in/weapons/low-a ... -guard-ii/ ; New Chinese laser weapon stars on TV. (2021, April 26). Popular Science. https://www.popsci.com/new-chinese-lase ... ars-on-tv/ ; Pike, J. (2021, April 11). Chinese laser weapons. GlobalSecurity.org. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... /laser.htm ;
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Re: Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions
DRAFT HQ-9A and HQ-9B missile descriptions for review/comment.
OVERVIEW: The HQ-9A is a two stage, solid fuel, long-range, Track via Missile (TVM) guided surface-to-air missile. It has a 180 kg warhead utilizing a RF proximity or impact fuze and a 35 meter effective blast range.
DETAILS: The HQ-9 is a derivative of the S-300 / 5V55 missile but employing newer computing technology.
It uses multiple guidance schemes. For the initial phase of flight, it relies on inertial guidance, switching to radio command for mid-course correction. In the terminal phase, it switches to Track via Missile guidance. In this mode, the HQ-9 missile's seeker target data is transmitted to the ground control station via downlink and where trajectory corrections are calculated and transmitted back to the HQ-9 missile via an uplink. The HQ-9 has thrust vector control, giving it increased maneuverability and accuracy. Unlike the earlier HQ-9A, the -9B also incorporates an additional IR seeker for additional targeting accuracy.
The HQ-9 is capable of intercepting short-range ballistic missiles with a range of up to 600 km, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles, aircraft, helicopters and UAVs.
Specifications:
Weight: 1300 kg (approx, based on FT-2000)
Length: 6.8 m (approx, based on FT-2000)
Diameter: 700 mm (1st stage); 560 mm (2nd stage)
Wingspan: ?? m
Speed: Mach 4.2 2800 knts;
Range: ??-135 nm; 250 km
Engagement Altitude: ??-30,000 m
Reload time: ?? seconds
Max target speed: ?? knots
Kill probability: 0.9 (single missile v. fighter-type aircraft) 0.3 ( v.ballistic missile)
Maneuverability: 22 g (est)
NOTES: IOC 2008 (approx). The HQ-9 series is the backbone of the Chinese missile defense program., filling the role of medium-long range defense in Chinese aerial defense systems, though in recent years it has been replaced by the HQ-18. FT-2000 is the export version.
SOURCES: Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defense, "HQ-9/FT-2000" 28 December 2016; Administrator. "HQ-9 Ground-to-air Medium Range Air Defense Missile System Data | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK." Defense News Security Global Military Army Equipment Technology Industry - Army Recognition. Last modified April 14, 2021. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... tures.html ; "HQ-9 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq9.htm ; "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Systems/HQ-9/a001834 ; "Anti-aircraft Missile System HQ-9 (FD-2000)." Missilery.info | Missile Database. Descriptions and Specifications. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-9 ; "HQ-9 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... nial/hq-9/.
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OVERVIEW: The HQ-9B is a two stage, solid fuel, long-range, Track via Missile (TVM) guided surface-to-air missile, with an additional IR seeker. It has a 180 kg warhead utilizing a RF proximity or impact fuse and a 35 meter effective blast range.
DETAILS: The HQ-9 is a derivative of the S-300 / 5V55 missile but employing newer computing technology.
It uses multiple guidance schemes. For the initial phase of flight, it relies on inertial guidance, switching to radio command for mid-course correction. In the terminal phase, it switches to Track via Missile guidance. In this mode, the HQ-9 missile's seeker target data is transmitted to the ground control station via downlink and where trajectory corrections are calculated and transmitted back to the HQ-9 missile via an uplink. The HQ-9 has thrust vector control, giving it increased maneuverability and accuracy. Unlike the earlier HQ-9A, the -9B also incorporates an additional IR seeker for additional targeting accuracy.
The HQ-9 is capable of intercepting short-range ballistic missiles with a range of up to 600 km, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles, aircraft, helicopters and UAVs.
Specifications:
Weight: 1300 kg (approx, based on FT-2000)
Length: 6.8 m (approx, based on FT-2000)
Diameter: 700 mm (1st stage); 560 mm (2nd stage)
Wingspan: ?? m
Speed: Mach 4.2 2800 knts;
Range: 3-162 nm; 6-300 km
Engagement Altitude: 1 500-30,000 m
Reload time: ?? seconds
Max target speed: ?? knots
Kill probability: 0.9 (single missile v. fighter-type aircraft) 0.3 ( v. ballistic missile)
Maneuverability: 22 g (est)
NOTES: IOC 2014. The HQ-9 series is the backbone of the Chinese missile defense program., filling the role of medium-long range defense in Chinese aerial defense systems, though in recent years it has been replaced by the HQ-18. FT-2000 is the export version.
SOURCES: Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defense, "HQ-9/FT-2000" 28 December 2016; Administrator. "HQ-9 Ground-to-air Medium Range Air Defense Missile System Data | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK." Defense News Security Global Military Army Equipment Technology Industry - Army Recognition. Last modified April 14, 2021. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... tures.html ; "HQ-9 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq9.htm ; "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Systems/HQ-9/a001834 ; "Anti-aircraft Missile System HQ-9 (FD-2000)." Missilery.info | Missile Database. Descriptions and Specifications. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-9 ; "HQ-9 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... nial/hq-9/.
OVERVIEW: The HQ-9A is a two stage, solid fuel, long-range, Track via Missile (TVM) guided surface-to-air missile. It has a 180 kg warhead utilizing a RF proximity or impact fuze and a 35 meter effective blast range.
DETAILS: The HQ-9 is a derivative of the S-300 / 5V55 missile but employing newer computing technology.
It uses multiple guidance schemes. For the initial phase of flight, it relies on inertial guidance, switching to radio command for mid-course correction. In the terminal phase, it switches to Track via Missile guidance. In this mode, the HQ-9 missile's seeker target data is transmitted to the ground control station via downlink and where trajectory corrections are calculated and transmitted back to the HQ-9 missile via an uplink. The HQ-9 has thrust vector control, giving it increased maneuverability and accuracy. Unlike the earlier HQ-9A, the -9B also incorporates an additional IR seeker for additional targeting accuracy.
The HQ-9 is capable of intercepting short-range ballistic missiles with a range of up to 600 km, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles, aircraft, helicopters and UAVs.
Specifications:
Weight: 1300 kg (approx, based on FT-2000)
Length: 6.8 m (approx, based on FT-2000)
Diameter: 700 mm (1st stage); 560 mm (2nd stage)
Wingspan: ?? m
Speed: Mach 4.2 2800 knts;
Range: ??-135 nm; 250 km
Engagement Altitude: ??-30,000 m
Reload time: ?? seconds
Max target speed: ?? knots
Kill probability: 0.9 (single missile v. fighter-type aircraft) 0.3 ( v.ballistic missile)
Maneuverability: 22 g (est)
NOTES: IOC 2008 (approx). The HQ-9 series is the backbone of the Chinese missile defense program., filling the role of medium-long range defense in Chinese aerial defense systems, though in recent years it has been replaced by the HQ-18. FT-2000 is the export version.
SOURCES: Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defense, "HQ-9/FT-2000" 28 December 2016; Administrator. "HQ-9 Ground-to-air Medium Range Air Defense Missile System Data | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK." Defense News Security Global Military Army Equipment Technology Industry - Army Recognition. Last modified April 14, 2021. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... tures.html ; "HQ-9 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq9.htm ; "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Systems/HQ-9/a001834 ; "Anti-aircraft Missile System HQ-9 (FD-2000)." Missilery.info | Missile Database. Descriptions and Specifications. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-9 ; "HQ-9 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... nial/hq-9/.
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OVERVIEW: The HQ-9B is a two stage, solid fuel, long-range, Track via Missile (TVM) guided surface-to-air missile, with an additional IR seeker. It has a 180 kg warhead utilizing a RF proximity or impact fuse and a 35 meter effective blast range.
DETAILS: The HQ-9 is a derivative of the S-300 / 5V55 missile but employing newer computing technology.
It uses multiple guidance schemes. For the initial phase of flight, it relies on inertial guidance, switching to radio command for mid-course correction. In the terminal phase, it switches to Track via Missile guidance. In this mode, the HQ-9 missile's seeker target data is transmitted to the ground control station via downlink and where trajectory corrections are calculated and transmitted back to the HQ-9 missile via an uplink. The HQ-9 has thrust vector control, giving it increased maneuverability and accuracy. Unlike the earlier HQ-9A, the -9B also incorporates an additional IR seeker for additional targeting accuracy.
The HQ-9 is capable of intercepting short-range ballistic missiles with a range of up to 600 km, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles, aircraft, helicopters and UAVs.
Specifications:
Weight: 1300 kg (approx, based on FT-2000)
Length: 6.8 m (approx, based on FT-2000)
Diameter: 700 mm (1st stage); 560 mm (2nd stage)
Wingspan: ?? m
Speed: Mach 4.2 2800 knts;
Range: 3-162 nm; 6-300 km
Engagement Altitude: 1 500-30,000 m
Reload time: ?? seconds
Max target speed: ?? knots
Kill probability: 0.9 (single missile v. fighter-type aircraft) 0.3 ( v. ballistic missile)
Maneuverability: 22 g (est)
NOTES: IOC 2014. The HQ-9 series is the backbone of the Chinese missile defense program., filling the role of medium-long range defense in Chinese aerial defense systems, though in recent years it has been replaced by the HQ-18. FT-2000 is the export version.
SOURCES: Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defense, "HQ-9/FT-2000" 28 December 2016; Administrator. "HQ-9 Ground-to-air Medium Range Air Defense Missile System Data | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK." Defense News Security Global Military Army Equipment Technology Industry - Army Recognition. Last modified April 14, 2021. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... tures.html ; "HQ-9 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq9.htm ; "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Systems/HQ-9/a001834 ; "Anti-aircraft Missile System HQ-9 (FD-2000)." Missilery.info | Missile Database. Descriptions and Specifications. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-9 ; "HQ-9 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed July 10, 2022. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... nial/hq-9/.
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Re: Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions
DRAFT TANGO SS description for community comment
OVERVIEW: The TANGO aka Som class SS (Project 641B) is a 3-shaft diesel powered long-range patrol submarine.
DETAILS: The Tango submarine is a late 2nd/early 3rd generation conventional submarine intended to operate against both oceanic SLOCs and in an 'ambush' role against warships operating at choke-points on the sea lanes. They were also reportedly deployed with DELTA SSBNs as escorts.
The TANGO is a double-hull design. It uses the same engineering plant as the earlier FOXTROT class submarine. Significant improvements over the FOXTROT class include a streamlined hull and a significant increase in battery capacity, range and endurance. The diving depth was also improved by increasing the thickness of the pressure hull. The TANGO also incorporated increased automation. For example, the sonar was linked directly to the torpedo FCS, enabling rapid generation of targeting solutions.
The TANGO also incorporated numerous quieting features, including eliminating the noise-crating limber holes, adding an anti-sonar coating on the outer hull, and incorporating rafting of the machinery. It also featured shrouded screws, improving its cavitation properties.
Some later units are reported capable of using the SS-N-15 missile.
Specifications:
Displacement: 3,700 tons submerged; 3,000 tons surfaced.
Speed: approximately 16 knots surfaced, 15.5 knots submerged
Machinery: 3 x 2000 hp Kolumna 2D42 diesel engines, 3 electric motors
Armament: 6 bow tubes, 533 mm + 18 reloads or 36 AMD-1000 mines
Endurance: 80 days; 14,000 @7 knts (surface) 400 nm @2.5 knots (submerged)
Working Depth: 787 ft (240 m)
Operational Depth: 984 ft (300 m)
Maximum Depth: 1640 ft (500 m)
Complement: 62
Hulls built: 18
Period of Service: 1972-2001
NOTES: IOC: 1972. Not exported. The Northern Fleet operated 15 TANGOs. 1-2 Northern Fleet units were typically deployed to the Mediterranean. Three additional units were operated by the Baltic Fleet. Units in class (in order): B-443, B-474, B-437 aka Magnitogorsk Komsomolets, B-498, B-515, B-519, B-290, B-303, B-146 aka Komsomolets of Kazakhstan, B-546, B-30, B-215, B-396 aka Novosibirsk Komsomolets, B-307, B-319 aka Komsomolets of Chuvashia, B-225, B-312, B-380 aka Gorky Komsomolets aka Holy Prince George.
SOURCES: Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, 1947-1982. Part II: The Warsaw Pact and ; Polmar, Norman, and Kenneth J. Moore. Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines. Lincoln: Potomac Books, 2004, page 201-203; Sword of the motherland historical Foundation. (n.d.). https://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain. ... ndex.htm&1 ; (n.d.)."Project 641B "Som" (NATO-"Tango"). https://www.deepstorm.ru/ ; Prezelin, Bernard. The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World, 1990-1991. US Naval Institute Press, 1990, pg. 587-88; Polmar, Norman, and Kenneth J. Moore. Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines. Lincoln: Potomac Books, 2004 (Kindle edition), pp. 205 ; "The Tango Class Russia's Rubber Submarine." Navy General Board. Last modified June 5, 2021. https://www.navygeneralboard.com/the-ta ... submarine/; https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showth ... p?t=229242 ; David bocquelet - Naval encyclopedia. "Soviet Cold War Submarines 1947-1991." Naval Encyclopedia. Accessed July 28, 2022. https://naval-encyclopedia.com/cold-war ... arines.php.
OVERVIEW: The TANGO aka Som class SS (Project 641B) is a 3-shaft diesel powered long-range patrol submarine.
DETAILS: The Tango submarine is a late 2nd/early 3rd generation conventional submarine intended to operate against both oceanic SLOCs and in an 'ambush' role against warships operating at choke-points on the sea lanes. They were also reportedly deployed with DELTA SSBNs as escorts.
The TANGO is a double-hull design. It uses the same engineering plant as the earlier FOXTROT class submarine. Significant improvements over the FOXTROT class include a streamlined hull and a significant increase in battery capacity, range and endurance. The diving depth was also improved by increasing the thickness of the pressure hull. The TANGO also incorporated increased automation. For example, the sonar was linked directly to the torpedo FCS, enabling rapid generation of targeting solutions.
The TANGO also incorporated numerous quieting features, including eliminating the noise-crating limber holes, adding an anti-sonar coating on the outer hull, and incorporating rafting of the machinery. It also featured shrouded screws, improving its cavitation properties.
Some later units are reported capable of using the SS-N-15 missile.
Specifications:
Displacement: 3,700 tons submerged; 3,000 tons surfaced.
Speed: approximately 16 knots surfaced, 15.5 knots submerged
Machinery: 3 x 2000 hp Kolumna 2D42 diesel engines, 3 electric motors
Armament: 6 bow tubes, 533 mm + 18 reloads or 36 AMD-1000 mines
Endurance: 80 days; 14,000 @7 knts (surface) 400 nm @2.5 knots (submerged)
Working Depth: 787 ft (240 m)
Operational Depth: 984 ft (300 m)
Maximum Depth: 1640 ft (500 m)
Complement: 62
Hulls built: 18
Period of Service: 1972-2001
NOTES: IOC: 1972. Not exported. The Northern Fleet operated 15 TANGOs. 1-2 Northern Fleet units were typically deployed to the Mediterranean. Three additional units were operated by the Baltic Fleet. Units in class (in order): B-443, B-474, B-437 aka Magnitogorsk Komsomolets, B-498, B-515, B-519, B-290, B-303, B-146 aka Komsomolets of Kazakhstan, B-546, B-30, B-215, B-396 aka Novosibirsk Komsomolets, B-307, B-319 aka Komsomolets of Chuvashia, B-225, B-312, B-380 aka Gorky Komsomolets aka Holy Prince George.
SOURCES: Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, 1947-1982. Part II: The Warsaw Pact and ; Polmar, Norman, and Kenneth J. Moore. Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines. Lincoln: Potomac Books, 2004, page 201-203; Sword of the motherland historical Foundation. (n.d.). https://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain. ... ndex.htm&1 ; (n.d.)."Project 641B "Som" (NATO-"Tango"). https://www.deepstorm.ru/ ; Prezelin, Bernard. The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World, 1990-1991. US Naval Institute Press, 1990, pg. 587-88; Polmar, Norman, and Kenneth J. Moore. Cold War Submarines: The Design and Construction of U.S. and Soviet Submarines. Lincoln: Potomac Books, 2004 (Kindle edition), pp. 205 ; "The Tango Class Russia's Rubber Submarine." Navy General Board. Last modified June 5, 2021. https://www.navygeneralboard.com/the-ta ... submarine/; https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showth ... p?t=229242 ; David bocquelet - Naval encyclopedia. "Soviet Cold War Submarines 1947-1991." Naval Encyclopedia. Accessed July 28, 2022. https://naval-encyclopedia.com/cold-war ... arines.php.
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Re: Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions
Revision of OBERON class SSK for review/comment
OVERVIEW: The OBERON is a diesel-powered patrol submarine.
DETAILS: The OBERON class were heavily based on the earlier PORPOISE-class SS. Unlike the PORPOISE, the OBERON used a stronger steel aa well as Glass Reinforced Plastic (GPR) in the hull to increase strength and diving depth. When built, they were exceptionally quiet underwater, in part due to careful attention to detail in the mounting of machinery, and advances made in propeller design to prevent cavitation. The major element of the noise signature for the Oberon class was machinery noise transmitted through the hull.
Their quietness, combined with a very effective long-range sonar suite, made them a very capable in their role patrolling chokepoints to detect transiting Soviet submarines. They were also capable as special operations boats, where their quietness and ability to get close to shore made them particularly valuable.
Specifications:
Displacement: 2,030 (surfaced); 2,410 tons submerged.
Speed: 12 knts (surfaced) 17 knts (submerged)
Engineering: 2-1,840 hp diesel engines; 2-3,000 hp electric motors,
Two 3-bladed propellers
Armament: 8/533mm torpedo tubes (6 fwd, 2 short tubes aft for Mk 23 short range torpedo)
Test Depth: 600 feet
Endurance: 56 days
Range: 9,000 nm (surfaced)
Complement: 69
Hulls built: 27 total (13 for RN, 6 for RAN, 3 for RCN, 3 to Brazil, 2 for Chile)
Period of Service: 1961-1993 (RN), 2000 (Australia and Canada)
NOTES: IOC: 1961. Units in class: OBERON (S 09); ODIN (S 10); ORPHEUS (S 11); OLYMPUS (S 12); OSIRIS (S 13); ONSLAUGHT (S 14); OTTER (S 15); ORACLE (S 16); OCELOT (S 17); OTUS (S 18); OPOSSUM (S 19); OPPORTUNE (S 20); ONYX (S 21). An additional six units were built for the Royal Australian Navy, and three to the Royal Canadian Navy.
SOURCES: Moore, John Evelyn. Jane's Fighting Ships 1987-88. London: Jane's Pub, 1987, pg. 659 ; Oberon-class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (n.d.). Retrieved May 4, 2015, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon-class_submarine ; Prezelin, Bernard. The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World, 1990-1991. US Naval Institute Press, 1990, pg. 704; Pike, John. "Oberon." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified November 7, 2011. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... oberon.htm.
OVERVIEW: The OBERON is a diesel-powered patrol submarine.
DETAILS: The OBERON class were heavily based on the earlier PORPOISE-class SS. Unlike the PORPOISE, the OBERON used a stronger steel aa well as Glass Reinforced Plastic (GPR) in the hull to increase strength and diving depth. When built, they were exceptionally quiet underwater, in part due to careful attention to detail in the mounting of machinery, and advances made in propeller design to prevent cavitation. The major element of the noise signature for the Oberon class was machinery noise transmitted through the hull.
Their quietness, combined with a very effective long-range sonar suite, made them a very capable in their role patrolling chokepoints to detect transiting Soviet submarines. They were also capable as special operations boats, where their quietness and ability to get close to shore made them particularly valuable.
Specifications:
Displacement: 2,030 (surfaced); 2,410 tons submerged.
Speed: 12 knts (surfaced) 17 knts (submerged)
Engineering: 2-1,840 hp diesel engines; 2-3,000 hp electric motors,
Two 3-bladed propellers
Armament: 8/533mm torpedo tubes (6 fwd, 2 short tubes aft for Mk 23 short range torpedo)
Test Depth: 600 feet
Endurance: 56 days
Range: 9,000 nm (surfaced)
Complement: 69
Hulls built: 27 total (13 for RN, 6 for RAN, 3 for RCN, 3 to Brazil, 2 for Chile)
Period of Service: 1961-1993 (RN), 2000 (Australia and Canada)
NOTES: IOC: 1961. Units in class: OBERON (S 09); ODIN (S 10); ORPHEUS (S 11); OLYMPUS (S 12); OSIRIS (S 13); ONSLAUGHT (S 14); OTTER (S 15); ORACLE (S 16); OCELOT (S 17); OTUS (S 18); OPOSSUM (S 19); OPPORTUNE (S 20); ONYX (S 21). An additional six units were built for the Royal Australian Navy, and three to the Royal Canadian Navy.
SOURCES: Moore, John Evelyn. Jane's Fighting Ships 1987-88. London: Jane's Pub, 1987, pg. 659 ; Oberon-class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (n.d.). Retrieved May 4, 2015, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon-class_submarine ; Prezelin, Bernard. The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World, 1990-1991. US Naval Institute Press, 1990, pg. 704; Pike, John. "Oberon." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified November 7, 2011. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... oberon.htm.
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Re: Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions
Thanks! Sub Brief is pretty good.Nikel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:22 pm There is a very detailed video of the class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO-YIW5bN-A
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