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Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions

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I have an idea I would like to propose for the consideration of the community: Myself and a very small team of enthusiasts have been writing the description files for CMO since 2013. Our vision is to create readable summaries of the various units/weapons/facilities in the game that allow a player to 1) quickly get 2) an understanding of the major characteristics of a particular piece of equipment is and 3) how it is used as well as 4) it limitations. We also double check accuracy of the CMO database, as we sometimes find potential errors based on our research.

Needless to say, this takes considerable time, as evidenced by the fact that there are only a small fraction of the units in the database that have entries. So here is the idea: If community members have an interest in any particular piece of equipment, simply post a proposed write up of it in this thread, using the template below. The community can comment on it and make suggestions. I will convert the description file into a .txt document, give you credit for the description file, and add it to the next update. The format we use is the following:

OVERVIEW: A 1-2 sentence overview of the essential characteristics of the equipment, including name, alternative names, type of equipment, range bands it operates in, and general purpose of the equipment.

DETAILS: Additional information on the equipment, including how it is employed, specific strengths and weaknesses of the equipment.

Specifications: Operational specifics of the gear, such as engagement envelopes, kill probabilities, mobility, reload times, etc. If a particular specification is unknown, I use a "?" or "unk" to denote the data is unavailable and needs further research.

NOTES: Information that does not fit into any of the categories above, such as the date it entered into service (IOC), names of the countries operating the equipment, or other interesting facts about the equipment

SOURCES: All the sources, including weblinks, used in writing the description files. IMPORTANT: I try to use multiple sources for my write ups, and to the extent possible try to find two sources for each fact in the write up (admittedly, that is not always possible). I also try to avoid using Wikipedia as a source, but I frequently use Wikipedia to identify potential sources of information, which are then cited in as sources.

In the next series of posts, I will provide some examples of entries that will be included in the upcoming update that community members can use as a template for writing description files. In addition to using these as templates, please feel free to comment on any inaccuracies or additions that should be made to these descriptions.
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OVERVIEW: The HQ-9B aka Hong Qi-9 ('Red Banner-9') SAM battalion is a road mobile, medium-to-long range, active radar homing, surface-to-air missile air defense unit, intended to provide strategic area defense of fixed targets against airborne targets and cruise missiles.

DETAILS: The HQ-9 provides medium-long range defense against aircraft, helicopters, UAVs, cruise missiles, air-to-ground missiles, guided bombs at medium- to long ranges.

The HQ-9 battery can employ a wide range of radars, both search, surveillance, acquisition, tracking and fire control to detect different targets, including ballistic missiles and stealth targets. The HQ-9 SAM battalion consists of eight (8) TEL vehicles, each with four (4) missiles. Additionally, the unit has a search/acquisition radar such as the Type 305B or YLC-2V and Type 120 low altitude acquisition radar, an engagement radar such as the HT-233 or H-200 engagement radar, a command and control vehicle, reloading vehicles and various support vehicles.


The system is capable of tracking some 100 airborne targets and the radar system can simultaneously guide up to 16 missiles against targets. A typical engagement begins with the detection of the target by the acquisition radar. Similar to the HQ-9's 5V55K predecessor, the HQ-9B missile may have a 15 second preparation cycle before firing. The battery can fire a missile every 3-5 seconds. After the cold launch from the TEL, an on-board inertial navigation system guides the missile until it is captured by the tracking-and-guidance system. At this point, the command guidance system takes over, and directs the missile towards its target. The HQ-9B uses a dual seeker (active radar and IR) for terminal guidance.

Specifications:

Maximum Acquisition Range: (Dependent on search radar)
Maximum Tracking Range: (Dependent on search radar)
Engagement Envelope: 2-135 nm (range); 30-80,000 ft (altitude)
Max Target Speed: 2650 knts
Kill Probability: 0.9 (aircraft)
Reload Time: ?? minutes
Mobility: road mobile
Emplacement/Displacement: 30+ minutes.


NOTES: IOC: 2010 (est).


SOURCES: Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defense, "HQ-9/FT-2000" 28 December 2016; "Hong Qi 9 (HQ-9) Air Defence Missile System, China." Army Technology | Land Defence News & Views Updated Daily. Last modified May 28, 2021. https://www.army-technology.com/project ... le-system/.;
"HQ-9 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq9.htm. ; "HQ-9 – Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance – Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/miss ... nial/hq-9/. ; Administrator. "HQ-9 Ground-to-air Medium Range Air Defense Missile System Data | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK." Defense News Security Global Military Army Equipment Technology Industry - Army Recognition. Last modified April 14, 2021. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_c ... tures.html. ;"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Defensive%20Weapons/HQ-9/a001833. ; Kopp, Dr C. "PLA Area Defence Missile Systems." Air Power Australia. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-IADS-SAMs.html. ; Pike, John. "HQ-9." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified January 8, 2021. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... a/hq-9.htm.
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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit description

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OVERVIEW: The MiG-23MF Flogger B is a single engine, variable-geometry, supersonic 3rd generation fighter aircraft. It had a secondary mission of ground attack.

DETAILS: The Flogger was intended to replace the MiG-21, and featured improved landing and takeoff performance, range and weapons capability over its predecessor.
The Flogger B was designed to be more reliable, maneuverable, and lighter than earlier Mig-23s. It achieved these goals by removing a fuel tank and improving aerodynamics, modernizing the avionics and flight control and up-rating the power plant. The Flogger G was equipped with the J-band (10-15 Ghz) Sapfir-23D-III aka HIGH LARK 2 (redesignated the Sapfir-23E for export) radar giving it a "look-down shoot-down" capability and maximum detection range of 65km against a fighter-sized target at high altitude, reduced to 25km in look-down mode.

The aircraft was powered by an R-29-300 turbojet engine, producing 27,500 lb of thrust.

The MiG-23M could maneuver up to 8.0 g. However, control issues at high AOA reduced the theoretical maneuverability of the MiG-23. Overall, the MiG-23 was a poor dogfighter. While its turning capability was comparable to an original F-4E Phantom, the F-15 or F-4E with slats could out-turn a MiG-23. Further, its low speed dogfighting characteristics were poor. The MiG-23 had excellent acceleration characteristics, particularly below 10,000 ft and could out-accelerate any American fighter, making it a good hit-and-run interceptor. The MiG-23's small profile made it hard to visually spot.

NOTES: IOC 1978 (approx.) This was an export derivative of the MiG-23M, (denoted "izdeliye 2A") produced from 1978 to 1983 for Warsaw Pact countries. Almost identical to the MiG-23M with small differences in communication and IFF equipment. Wing sweep mechanism failures and cracks in the wing pivots resulted in 5g limits being placed on the airframe until 1977, resulting in only BVR intercept and no basic fighter maneuvering training during this period.


SOURCE: "MiG-23M." Airwar.Ru. Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23m.html. ; Mladenov, Alexander. Soviet Cold War Fighters. Fonthill Media, 2017. ; Newdick, Thomas. "This Myth-Busting Walk-Around Of The Soviet MiG-23 Flogger Fighter Is A Must-Watch." The Drive. Last modified March 18, 2021. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... must-watch. ; "MiG-23ML." Airwar.Ru.Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23ml.html ; Davies, Steve. Red Eagles: America’s Secret MiGs. Oxford: Osprey Publishing, 2008 pg. 167 ; "Mikoyan MIG-23." Weapons and Warfare. Last modified November 14, 2020. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/11/2 ... an-mig-23/. ; "Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 (Flogger)." Military Factory - Global Defense Reference. Accessed September 27, 2021. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... aft_id=151.
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OVERVIEW: The KRTP-86 Tamara (NATO: TRASH CAN) ELS is a is a road mobile, ESM system for passive direction finding and locating airborne emitters operating in the C-J (NATO) or UHF-KU (IEEE) bands.

DETAILS: The KRTP-86 Tamara is an improved version of the KRTP-81. Like the KRTP-81, the KRTP-81M uses Differential Time of Arrival (DTOA) capabilities to locate both airborne and surface emitters. The KRTP-81M, has higher sensitivity (+ 3dB) and higher resistance to interference, improved performance against TACANs and improved software.

The deployed system typically comprises a central site containing the signal processing equipment and an ESM receiver and two or three side sites containing only an ESM receiver. The receivers typically are targeted against emitters such as secondary surveillance radar (SSR) transponders, identify friend or foe (IFF) transponders, airborne radars, weather radars, tactical air navigation (TACAN) transponders, distance measurement equipment (DME) beacons, digital communications signals, and pulsed jamming signals. The received signals are transmitted to the central site over a microwave link.

The central site uses the known propagation delay from the side sites to estimate the TDOA of the pulses at each site. The TDOA of a pulse between one side site and the central site locates the target on a hyperboloid. A second side site provides a second TDOA and hence a second hyperboloid. The intersection of these two hyperboloids places the target on a line, providing a 2D measurement of the target's location (no height) or a 3D location with reception from 3 or more receivers.

The side sites are usually deployed 10 to 35 km from the central site, providing a compromise of coverage and accuracy. Up to 72 targets in a 100 degree sector can be automatically tracked.

The "Tamara" system is self-deployable and road mobile. A complete system consists of 8 units of equipment (three RS-AJ / M receiving devices, one equipment cabin of the RS-KB receiving complex, an RS-KM signal processing equipment cabin, and an additional ZZP-5 command module with information display systems) each placed on Tatra T-815 truck chassis.


Specifications:

Frequency: 80 MHz-18 GHz (B-J Bands (NATO); UHF, L, S, C, X, KU Bands (IEEE)))

Range Resolution: unknown m (range), unknown degrees azimuth
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time ?? hours
Max Range: 240 nm (radar horizon)

NOTES: IOC 1989.

SOURCES:"CZK - KRTP-81 Ramona (radiotechnický Pátrač)." Https://www.valka.cz. Accessed September 22, 2021. https://www.armedconflicts.com/CZK-KRTP ... rac-t12985. ; "RAMONA." Homepage Manfred Bischoff. Accessed September 22, 2021. https://www.manfred-bischoff.de/RAMONA.htm. ;"Czechoslovak passive electronic intelligence stations." Accessed September 22, 2021. https://pvo.guns.ru/other/czech/tamara/. ; Kopp, Dr C. "Warsaw Pact / Russian Emitter Locating Systems / ELINT Systems." Air Power Australia. Accessed August 9, 2021.
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OVERVIEW: The WHISKEY class SS (Project 613V) is a diesel powered attack submarine.

DETAILS: The WHISKEY SS were a shorter-range equivalent of the ZULU class, and designated as a coastal patrol submarine. The WHISKEY was still considered to be a very loud submarine, due in part to the limber holes along the hull.


Specifications:
Displacement: 1,350 tons submerged.
Speed: approximately 17 knots surfaced, 13.5 knots submerged
Machinery: 2 2000bhp diesel
Endurance: 40-45 days; 8,880/10 knts (surface) 6,000 nm/5 knts on snorkel; 335/2 knts (submerged)
Operational Depth: 200 m
Maximum Depth:
Complement: 54
Hulls built: 215 + 21 Chinese-built
Period of Service: 1950-1983

NOTES: Design was influenced by the German Type XXI U-boat of WWII. Early versions were orginally equiped with deck guns, but all were removed in the 1950's. Likely originally intended to protect the sea approaches to the USSR rather than as oceanic commercer-raiders.

SOURCES: Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, 1947-1982. Part II: The Warsaw Pact and Non-Aligned Nations. London: Conway Maritime Press, 1983, pg 492 ; http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.h ... hist.htm&1 ; Moore, John Evelyn. Jane's Fighting Ships 1987-88. London: Jane's Pub, 1987, pg. 564.
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OVERVIEW: The RAT-31DL is a long range, 3D active phased array surveillance radar, operating in the NATO "D" (IEEE "L") Band.

DETAILS: The RAT-31 is designed to operate in heavy clutter and electronic countermeasures (ECM) environments. It features excellent Electronic Counter Counter Measures (ECCMs) ability due to its very low sidelobe antennas, reduced peak power, frequency agility.

The radar can be controlled through the local radar management console or through a remote console. The mechanical configuration is designed to facilitate
assembly/disassembly on battlefield, to provide an increased survivability.

The system is available in either fixed (DL) or transportable configuration (DL/M). The RAT 31 DL/M Radar systems, consisting of a foldable antenna and a shelter, both in two ISO 20 ft packages, can be transported in one A400M type aircraft as well as on truck and rail. This configuration allows for a high degree of mobility and fast deployment/re-deployment of the system, on unprepared sites.

Specifications:

Frequency: 1-2 GHz (D-Band)
Power output: 84 kW (peak) 1,764 Tx/Rx @ 2kW each
PRF: ?? pps
Range Resolution: ?? degree azimuth
Runup time: ??
Set up time: ??

Detection Range: 270nm (instrumented)

NOTES: Users include Austria, Czech, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Malaysia, Poland and Turkey.


SOURCES:
"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/RAT31DL/a001448. ; Leonardo. "RAT 31DL L-Band/Solid State 3D Air Surveillance Radar." Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.leonardocompany.com/documen ... 1522945438. ; "RAT 31DL." Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/products/rat-31dl. ;"RAT-31 DL/M - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 12.en.html.
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OVERVIEW: The SA-22 GREYHOUND (57E6 and 57E6E) is two-stage, solid fuel, low-to-high altitude, short range surface-to-air missile using command guidance. It is equipped with a 20 kg HE fragmentation rod warhead.

DETAILS:

The 57E6YE surface-to-air missile features a high accelerationshort flight time at the boost phase.The missile uses an air-dynamic steering.


Specifications:

Weight: 71 kg
Length: 3.16m
Diameter: 0.09 m (missile) 0.170m (booster)
Wingspan: ?? m
Speed: knts (1300 m/s)
Range: 0.8-9.7 nm (1-18 km)
Engagement Altitude: 30-49,000 ft, (5-15000 m)
Max target speed: 1943 knts (1000 m/s)
Kill probability: 0.7-0.90
Maneuverability: unknown g


NOTES: IOC: 2012

SOURCES:
"2S6 Tunguska." Weaponsystems.net. Accessed July 31, 2021. https://weaponsystems.net/system/60-2S6+Tunguska. ; "Pantsir-S1 / S2 / SM Mobile Air Defense System." Thai Military and Asian Region. Last modified January 18, 2020. https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.word ... antsir-s1/. ; Pike, John. "57E6 / SA-22 GREYHOUND." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified 6, 2020. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... a/57e6.htm.
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The HQ-22 (Red Banner-22) SAM battalion is a semi-mobile, medium/long range air defense unit using a semi-active radar homing / radio-command guidance. It may be used for theater air defense.


DETAILS: The HQ-22 system is intended to complement the HQ-9/9B system and replace the obsolete HQ-2. The HQ-22 battery consists of 1 radar vehicle using the G band H-200 illumination/fire control radar and 3 TELs with 4 missiles each. A battery can engage 6 targets and can control up to 12 missiles simultaneously. The system is capable of engaging cruise missiles, short ranged ballistic missiles, and all manner of aircraft including bombers and drones. The HQ-22 system is reportedly designed to withstand to electronic countermeasures and operate in heavy jamming environments.

The HQ-22 missile uses command guidance and semi-active radar guidance with a dual guidance system. When firing at targets within 75 kilometers, it uses a command guidance system. The reason for adopting such a design is mainly to reduce the cost, so that it can be "downward compatible" to command the HQ-2 SAM.

The missiles are equipped with a semi-active radar CNS complemented by a two-way radio command line for data transmission. The flight is controlled by a combined guidance system. At the initial stage of flight (up to 75 km) is conducted using radio command guidance. Subsequent guidance uses TVM (Track-via-missile ). This dual guidance scheme reduces the sensitivity of the system to various electronic countermeasures.

The system is intended to be compatible with the HQ-2.



Specifications:

Maximum Acquisition Range: 110 nm (H-200)
Maximum Tracking Range: ?? nm (H-200)
Engagement Envelope: 164-88,583 ft; 50-27,000m (altitude), 2.6-92 nm (5-170km) range
Max Target Speed: ?? knts (head on), ?? knts (receding)
Reload Time: ?? minutes
Mobility: semi mobile
Emplacement/Displacement: ?? minutes.


NOTES: IOC: 2017. Intended to replace the HQ-2. Export version is the FK-3. Other users include Serbia and possibly Myanmar, Thailand, Turkmenistan.



SOURCES: "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed May 31, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Syst ... 22/a003805. ; "HQ-22 (FK-3) Anti-aircraft Missile System." Missilery.info | Missile Database. Descriptions and Specifications. Accessed May 31, 2021. https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-22. ;"HQ-22 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed May 31, 2021. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq_22.htm. ; Pike, John. "HQ-22 / FK-3 - Surface-to-Air Missile." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified October 2, 2021. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... /hq-22.htm.
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OVERVIEW: The Zubr class (Project 1232.2, NATO reporting name "Pomornik") is a class of Soviet-designed air-cushioned landing craft (LCAC) designed to sealift amphibious units. Additionally, the Zubr can lay naval mines.

DETAILS:
The Zubr-class landing craft has a cargo area of 400 square meters (4,300 sq ft). It can carry three main battle tanks (up to 150 tons), or ten armored vehicles with 140 troops (up to 131 tons), or 8 armored personnel carriers of total mass up to 115 tons, or 8 amphibious tanks or up to 500 troops. Alternatively, it can carry and lay between 20-80 mines, depending on type.

The Zubr class remains seaworthy in conditions up to Sea State 4. The vessel has a cruising speed of 30–40 knots (56–74 km/h; 35–46 mph).


Specifications:

Displacement: 340 tons (light); 555 tons (full load)
Speed: 63 knts (max); 55 knts (sustained)
Range: 300 nm @55 knts
Endurance: 5 days
Complement: 27


NOTES: IOC 1988.

SOURCES: "The Project 12322 Air Cushion Landing Ship Zubr | Catalog Rosoboronexport." Рособоронэкспорт | Официальный сайт. Accessed May 22, 2021. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-system ... oats/zubr/. ;
"Zubr Class (Pomornik)." Naval Technology | Naval Defence News & Views Updated Daily. Last modified January 11, 2001. https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/zubr/.
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Love the idea and will try to support. English ain't my native tongue so that's making it a little harder but try to find data in books and on the internet.
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Love the idea and will try to support. English ain't my native tongue so that's making it a little harder but try to find data in books and on the internet.
best regards Gert-Jan

Thank you! For the non-English speakers, you don't have to worry about your writing skills. I can edit your writing to fix any problems. The team just really needs your help in researching and drafting the description files. As far as what files need to be written: You can pick. Any unit/system that does not already have a description file is fair game. In other words, if you are interested in researching and writing about it, and we don't already have a database entry for that system, then feel free to submit something. Further, there is no production quota. If you just have a burning desire to write about ESR-220 Thutlhwa, and nothing else, that is okay. We will accept whatever you wish to submit.

One caveat: Sometimes, there is a description file for a system, but a database update has now assigned that system to another country that previously did not have it, so there is no description file for the system for that country's database entry. For example, there may be a database entry for the SA-5c GAMMON SAM system, and we may have description files for all the countries that have it. If hypothetically, an update to the database suddenly gave a new country that system, we don't need to research and write a new entry for the SA-5c GAMMON. We just need to copy the old entry, and assign it to the database entry for the new country's system.
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ORIGINAL: CV60

OVERVIEW: The MiG-23MF Flogger B is a single engine, variable-geometry, supersonic 3rd generation fighter aircraft. It had a secondary mission of ground attack.

DETAILS: The Flogger was intended to replace the MiG-21, and featured improved landing and takeoff performance, range and weapons capability over its predecessor.
The Flogger B was designed to be more reliable, maneuverable, and lighter than earlier Mig-23s. It achieved these goals by removing a fuel tank and improving aerodynamics, modernizing the avionics and flight control and up-rating the power plant. The Flogger G was equipped with the J-band (10-15 Ghz) Sapfir-23D-III aka HIGH LARK 2 (redesignated the Sapfir-23E for export) radar giving it a "look-down shoot-down" capability and maximum detection range of 65km against a fighter-sized target at high altitude, reduced to 25km in look-down mode.

The aircraft was powered by an R-29-300 turbojet engine, producing 27,500 lb of thrust.

The MiG-23M could maneuver up to 8.0 g. However, control issues at high AOA reduced the theoretical maneuverability of the MiG-23. Overall, the MiG-23 was a poor dogfighter. While its turning capability was comparable to an original F-4E Phantom, the F-15 or F-4E with slats could out-turn a MiG-23. Further, its low speed dogfighting characteristics were poor. The MiG-23 had excellent acceleration characteristics, particularly below 10,000 ft and could out-accelerate any American fighter, making it a good hit-and-run interceptor. The MiG-23's small profile made it hard to visually spot.

NOTES: IOC 1978 (approx.) This was an export derivative of the MiG-23M, (denoted "izdeliye 2A") produced from 1978 to 1983 for Warsaw Pact countries. Almost identical to the MiG-23M with small differences in communication and IFF equipment. Wing sweep mechanism failures and cracks in the wing pivots resulted in 5g limits being placed on the airframe until 1977, resulting in only BVR intercept and no basic fighter maneuvering training during this period.


SOURCE: "MiG-23M." Airwar.Ru. Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23m.html. ; Mladenov, Alexander. Soviet Cold War Fighters. Fonthill Media, 2017. ; Newdick, Thomas. "This Myth-Busting Walk-Around Of The Soviet MiG-23 Flogger Fighter Is A Must-Watch." The Drive. Last modified March 18, 2021. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... must-watch. ; "MiG-23ML." Airwar.Ru.Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23ml.html ; Davies, Steve. Red Eagles: America’s Secret MiGs. Oxford: Osprey Publishing, 2008 pg. 167 ; "Mikoyan MIG-23." Weapons and Warfare. Last modified November 14, 2020. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/11/2 ... an-mig-23/. ; "Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 (Flogger)." Military Factory - Global Defense Reference. Accessed September 27, 2021. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... aft_id=151.

If I can alter this text I would delete information that prior 1977 there was 5g limitation as MiG-23MF was produced from 1978 (mentioned here).

For nonsoviet warsaw pact nations I have these user numbers for MiG-23:

Bulgaria
- 12 MiG-23MF from 1978
- 8 MiG-23ML from 1983 (factory designation MiG-23MLA; excluding one nonflying second hand used as training tool)
- 21 MiG-23MLD from 1984 (16 new built with factory designation MiG-23MLAE-2 and 5 second hand obtained in 1992 from Russia which were originally built as MiG-23MLA but modernized to soviet MLD)
- 36 MiG-23BN from 1976
- 15 MiG-23UB from 1976 (including one second hand)

Czechoslovakia
- 13 MiG-23MF from 1978
- 17 MiG-23ML from 1981 (factory designation MiG-23MLA)
- 32 MiG-23BN from 1978* (first two aircraft were delivered in last days od December 1977)
- 8 MiG-23UB from 1978

Hungary
- 12 MiG-23MF from 1979
- 4 MiG-23UB from 1979 (including one second hand)

Eastern Germany
- 12 MiG-23MF from 1978
- 32 MiG-23ML from 1982 (factory designation MiG-23MLA)
- 22 MiG-23BN from 1979
- 11 MiG-23UB from 1978

Poland
- 36 MiG-23MF from 1979
- 6 MiG-23UB from 1979

Romania
- 36 MiG-23MF from 1979
- 10 MiG-23UB from 1979 (including two second hand)

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ORIGINAL: CV60
Love the idea and will try to support. English ain't my native tongue so that's making it a little harder but try to find data in books and on the internet.
best regards Gert-Jan

Thank you! For the non-English speakers, you don't have to worry about your writing skills. I can edit your writing to fix any problems. The team just really needs your help in researching and drafting the description files. As far as what files need to be written: You can pick. Any unit/system that does not already have a description file is fair game. In other words, if you are interested in researching and writing about it, and we don't already have a database entry for that system, then feel free to submit something. Further, there is no production quota. If you just have a burning desire to write about ESR-220 Thutlhwa, and nothing else, that is okay. We will accept whatever you wish to submit.

One caveat: Sometimes, there is a description file for a system, but a database update has now assigned that system to another country that previously did not have it, so there is no description file for the system for that country's database entry. For example, there may be a database entry for the SA-5c GAMMON SAM system, and we may have description files for all the countries that have it. If hypothetically, an update to the database suddenly gave a new country that system, we don't need to research and write a new entry for the SA-5c GAMMON. We just need to copy the old entry, and assign it to the database entry for the new country's system.

Somewhat related to this...I used to go in and look through systems that were identical but under a different country heading. I would copy them to a new file related to the new country. If you don't feel like typing in or pasting in new descriptions, you can do a lot with just finding those duplicates.

Its been quite a while since I did any of that, CV60 can jump in if that's a waste of time.
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First try :-)
Let me known if this is what you meant or not, regards GJ


OVERVIEW: The Holland class is a Damen built Netherlands Ocean Going Patrol Vessel (3750) for Anti-Piracy, Counter-drugs, SAR, Smuggler interception, etc. A Robust platform with limited weapon-fot but high-end sensor-fit.

DETAILS:
The Holland class is fitted with a large FRISC on a (fast) slipway at the stern and one FRISC in davits. Hanger and helopad for size NH-90. Crew of 54 with 36 extra personal accomodation. Integrated mast with Sensor & Communication system includingn Active phased array radar and EO/IR sensor. Weapons are 76mm Oto Melara, Rapid-fire 30mm Marlin and 12.7mm Hitrole MG's. First commissioned in 2011.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: standard 3750 tons
Speed: 22 max
Range: 5000 at 16
Endurance: 21 days
Complement: 52 + 38

NOTES:
One of there main operations is station ship in the Caribbean for the Dutch Antilles

SOURCES:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... nd-opv.htm
https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/op ... essel-3750
https://www.navalanalyses.com/2014/11/h ... ts-of.html
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... asspatrol/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland-c ... rol_vessel

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Hi CV60

it's a good idea,
if you need a discord channel to compare in real-time information, to organize better and faster, or anything else let me know.

I will be happy to help [;)]
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ORIGINAL: PN79

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If I can alter this text I would delete information that prior 1977 there was 5g limitation as MiG-23MF was produced from 1978 (mentioned here).

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You are absolutely correct. I will delete that info for the Mig-23MF. Thanks
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ORIGINAL: Roby7979

Hi CV60

it's a good idea,
if you need a discord channel to compare in real-time information, to organize better and faster, or anything else let me know.

I will be happy to help [;)]

Thanks. Possibly that might be useful, if this project really gets going. For right now, possibly just leave it like this, so the community can see what we are doing?
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