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Broncepulido wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 11:37 pm Exercise assesment six months later, great points here:

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... e-polaris/

Quote: "After the first minutes of combat, it turns out that the result is severe, and this is what the report underlines. In fact, within fifteen minutes of combat, two frigates were sunk and two more were neutralized. 200 to 400 sailors were put out of action, killed or missing. But the result was even worse at the end of the exercise, with a total of eight ships sunk or out of combat".
Like the article says, it really puts into perspective just how deadly and how quick casualties would amass in a high intensity naval scenario such as this. I think most people were already aware this would be the case but to see it quantified with a number is indeed sobering.

Very interesting article and analysis with some great parcels of information. Here's another interesting quote:

"“The cooperation with the British has so far been hampered by divergent military-technical analyses and industrial interests. Simulations carried out by the Navy and the DGA in the field of anti-surface warfare show that stealth, so much vaunted by the British, cannot by itself make a real difference in naval combat. The stealthy anti-ship missile is indeed detectable as soon as it passes the horizon, even low over the water. High speed and maneuverability, on the other hand, are far more credible factors for operational superiority and lethality.”"
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Tcao wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:22 pm Ukraine Strikes Back: Su-27s Bomb Occupied Snake Island In Daring Raid
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u ... aring-raid

I haven't seen anyone reenacting this in CMO or in DCS 8-)
Is there currently any data or mapping of the Russian air defense set up in Ukraine? I assume here the main threat to the Ukrainians is ship air defense since snake island is probably too far from any land threat Russian SAMs unless theyre using CAP over black sea.
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Published: JUNE 8, 2022 14:35
In face of Iran’s continued development of a nuclear capability, the Israeli Air Force has developed a new capability to be able to fly its F-35 stealth fighter jets from Israel to the Islamic Republic without requiring mid-air refueling.
The development is a boost to IAF capabilities and comes as the Israeli military has upped its preparations for a future strike against Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

In addition, the IAF recently integrated a new one-ton bomb into the arsenal of weapons used by the F-35s (known in the IAF as the “Adir”) that can be carried inside the plane’s internal weapons compartment without jeopardizing its stealth radar signature.
The bomb – made by Rafael Advanced Weapons Systems - is said to be autonomous and protected against jamming and electronic warfare systems. The bomb was recently used in a series of IAF tests, the results of which were presented to Defense Minister Benny Gantz.

The IAF has held four large-scale drills simulating attacks against Iran over the last month. The first drill included confronting Iranian radar and detection systems, like those which protect its nuclear installations.
The second included simulating long-range combat flights – in this case to destinations in Europe. The other drills included defensive measures against cyber weapons and electronic warfare systems, means that could be used by Iran to undermine an Israeli military operation.

During the recent military maneuvers, the IAF also drilled cooperation between fifth-generation fighter jets like the F-35 and fourth-generation jets like Israel’s older model F15s and F-16s. The planes practiced sharing intelligence, missions and more.

“Iran’s surface-to-air missile systems and radars are crowded and they are not the only challenge,” a defense official said. “We need to be able to attack targets that are significant and the attack needs to be able to cause extensive damage. There are multiple targets in Iran at different ranges.”
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conf ... cle-708875
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Thanks, very interesting news.

For reference, from Tel Aviv to Tehran, shortest distance is 1570 kms.

Combat range of the F-35 (wikipedia): 1240 kms.

What can it be?

Just a new drop tank?

Or a new top secret aviation fuel? This is a plot for a novel :mrgreen:
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Improvised Tor SAM in Russian warships:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/r ... sam-system
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Does anyone have info on where the Su-27s striking Snake Island are based from? Perhaps something near Odesa. Has anyone come across a detailed document on UAV strike tactics? I have been assuming the Bayraktar TB2 can and has been operating from austere strips. I read today that drone tactics have evolved into something like wolfpacks where UAVs in groups of three disperse and stay on the move then concentrate several groups on targets identified via various sources. Has anyone heard of the of this wolfpack analogy?

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Not really "news" since its a few days old already, but China's 3rd and first CATOBAR carrier Type 003 has been launched. Most surprising is that the CV-18 will be named "FUJIAN", after the province facing Taiwan.
Previously, the rumors pointed to JIANGSU, another eastern coast province (China names big capital ships after provinces, in case someone asks). Dont know if the naming/renaming is deliberate or not, but that's quite a message it is sending.

And sadly the EMALS are covered by sheds, but this was also the case when the Ford launched back in the day.

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Good analysis by Binkov, as ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_qCldb9eJU

Also, despite being officially "80,000 tons" it will most probably exceed 90k and approach 100k tons by the end of it. Just as the Type 055 was officially a "10,000 ton class destroyer" according to the Chinese state media, while in the end it became a 13,5k ton monster...

Also interesting; the nose of the J-15B (or J-15T) catapult variant has been spotted. It features the canted radome of the J-11D advanced Sino-Flanker testbed. So we can expect the initial airwing to consist of J-15s that are at the very least J-16 level in terms of sensors and weaponry (aka AESA, PL-15, PL-10, AG munitions etc).

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In other news; the J-35 programme seems to be making quite some progress. They are already beginning to train them for carrier ops on the land based carrier aviation training base:

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Before long, I guess we will see a mixed airgroup with both J-15B and J-35s serving different roles.
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ILA-Berlin, 23 June 2022 – The NATO Eurofighter and Tornado Management Agency (NETMA) has signed a landmark contract for the acquisition of 20 latest generation Eurofighter jets. Known as the Halcon programme, the order will cover the delivery of a fleet of E-Scan (Electronically Scanned) radar equipped fighter aircraft consisting of 16 single-seaters and 4 twin-seaters to replace the F-18 fleet operated by the Spanish Air Force on the Canary Islands.

This contract will see the Spanish Eurofighter fleet grow to 90 aircraft. With the first delivery due in 2026, these new aircraft will enhance and position the Spanish Air Force fighter fleet among its NATO allies with the most modern fighter jet developed in Europe, as well as securing industrial activity through to 2030.

‘This additional order reinforces Spain’s commitment not only towards the Eurofighter but also to its development and industrial environment. I would like to thank the customer for its firm position with respect to European defence at a time when it is needed most,” said Mike Schoellhorn, CEO of Airbus Defence and Space.

The acquisition, valued at € 2.043 billion, was approved by Spain’s Council of Ministers on 14 December 2021 and includes the aircraft, engines, a simulator and the necessary support services.

In service with Spain since 2003, the country’s air force operates the Eurofighter from the air bases of Morón (11th Wing) and Albacete (14th Wing), securing Spain’s territory and playing a key role at the heart of NATO in different Air Policing missions in the Baltics and more recently the Black Sea. With the arrival of these new aircraft, Spain will also equip a third base with Eurofighter jets, namely Gando on the Canary Islands, which is home to the 46th Wing.

The Spanish Eurofighter is assembled, tested and delivered at the Airbus Getafe site (Spain) and its industrial footprint translates into more than 20,000 direct and indirect jobs in Spain alone. The main national defence and technological companies are involved in the manufacturing process. Airbus has also been working at Getafe in coordination with the Armament and Experimental Logistics Centre (CLAEX) of the Spanish Air Force to make various modifications such as the implementation of the new CM02+ software package for the Tranche 1 Eurofighters. A major tactical improvement offered by this software is the new capacity for automatic targeting of air-to-surface weapons following integration of the Litening-III targeting pod. Further air-to-air and air-to-surface capabilities have also been introduced, along with improvements to the communications systems.
https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/pres ... ontract-to
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BAE Systems Awarded $12B To Continue Supporting Air Forces ICBM Inventory.
Inside Defense (6/28, Mesch) reports BAE Systems announced Monday that it has been awarded an “18-year, $12 billion contract to continue supporting the Air Force’s Intercontinental Ballistic Missile inventory.” Under the contract, BAE “will provide systems engineering, integration and test support for the Minuteman III and Sentinel, formerly known as Ground Based Strategic Deterrent. BAE will also provide program management, acquisition, research and administrative support for the integrated life cycle acquisition and sustainment of current and next-generation ICBMs.
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USAF Demonstrates B-52’s New BLOS Communication System.
Inside Defense (6/28, Mesch) reports the US Air Force “demonstrated its new beyond line-of-sight communication system for the B-52 bomber last week, moving one step forward in an upgrade officials say is vital.” The USAF announced in a news release that the “test paired the capability, called IRIS, with an Iridium Certus terminal on a bomber at Barksdale Air Force Base, LA.” According to Inside Defense, the “system uses a Low Earth Orbit constellation of satellites, which provides global coverage and a greater broadband capacity than the previous communications capability.” Capt. Richard Brown, 49th TES Conventional test flight commander, said, “In a wartime scenario, the single point of failure often lies in our ability to communicate. … If we can’t send and receive mission critical data from our aircraft reliably and efficiently, then we will lose.”
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Yes, last days videos showed that the island was shelled by ukranian artillery and rockets directed by drones.

Untenable for the russian side.

The question is what the ukranians can do with the island, if occupied, they will be the exposed.
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Nikel wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:53 pm Yes, last days videos showed that the island was shelled by ukranian artillery and rockets directed by drones.

Untenable for the russian side.

The question is what the ukranians can do with the island, if occupied, they will be the exposed.
I think the real value is simply denying Russia the island.
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You are right.

I was thinking in a possible offensive role :twisted:
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I think it would be tough for Ukraine to use the island. The Russians will do the same thing to them. Having no one on it favors the Russians since they are more likely to have sea control.
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News and graphic by HI Sutton.

https://news.usni.org/2022/06/30/potent ... on-in-iran


But none of these beauties is in the database? I only see old catamarans from China in the iranian navy.
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The Pentagon is working on a new plan to rise above competition from China and Russia: balloons.

The high-altitude inflatables, flying at between 60,000 and 90,000 feet, would be added to the Pentagon’s extensive surveillance network and could eventually be used to track hypersonic weapons.

The idea may sound like science fiction, but Pentagon budget documents signal the technology is moving from DoD’s scientific community to the military services.
“High or very high-altitude platforms have a lot of benefit for their endurance on station, maneuverability and also flexibility for multiple payloads,” said Tom Karako, senior fellow for the International Security Program and Missile Defense Project director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The Pentagon continues to invest in these projects because the military could use the balloons for various missions.
Over the past two years, the Pentagon has spent about $3.8 million on balloon projects, and plans to spend $27.1 million in fiscal year 2023 to continue work on multiple efforts, according to budget documents.

Meanwhile, the Pentagon is working on its own hypersonic weapons program, despite Wednesday’s failure of the latest test.
A bright spot for the U.S. is the balloons may help track and deter hypersonic weapons being developed by China and Russia.
China surprised the Pentagon in August by testing a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile, which narrowly missed its target by roughly two dozen miles.
Russia began ramping up hypersonic weapons development in response to the U.S. withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002. The Russian government claimed to fire a hypersonic missile in an attack on Ukraine in March, marking its first use in combat.
That’s one way the balloons could be useful — augmenting expensive satellites in tracking the missiles. The teardrop-shaped balloons harvest complex data and navigate using AI algorithms.


Hiding in plain sight
For years, DoD has conducted tests using high-altitude balloons and solar-powered drones to collect data, provide ground forces with communication and mitigate satellite problems. The Pentagon is quietly transitioning the balloon projects to the military services to collect data and transmit information to aircraft, POLITICO discovered in DoD budget justification documents.

The Covert Long-Dwell Stratospheric Architecture (COLD STAR), a project designed to locate drug traffickers, was widely reported in 2019. At the time, the Pentagon launched 25 surveillance balloons from South Dakota as part of a demonstration.
The Pentagon confirmed to POLITICO that the COLD STAR program has transitioned to the services. DoD would not disclose details about the effort because it is classified.
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Another initiative aims to tie all the technology together. The Pentagon is conducting demonstrations to evaluate how to incorporate high-altitude balloons and commercial satellites in an attack, known as the “kill chain.”
“They can be trucks for any number of platforms, whether it be communication and datalink nodes, ISR, tracking air and missile threats, or even various weapons — and without the predictable orbits of satellites,” Karako said.
DoD is also working to use drones equipped with “stratospheric payloads” along with balloons to track moving ground targets, provide communications and intercept electronic signals. The idea is for the technology to transition to the Army and U.S. Special Operations Command, according to budget documents.

Finding other ways to track ground targets is a priority for the Pentagon as the Air Force retires airborne surveillance aircraft.

Not your average balloon
Raven Aerostar, a division of Raven Industries, produces the balloons. Raven said they consist of a flight control unit, powered by batteries that are charged using renewable solar panels. They also have a payload electronics package that controls flight safety, navigation and communications, Russell Van Der Werff, engineering director at Raven Aerostar, said in an interview.
Wind currents allow the balloon to float along a desired flight path, and the company takes advantage of different wind speeds and directions to move the balloon to the target area.

But that’s not all. Raven Aerostar uses a proprietary machine-learning algorithm that predicts wind directions and fuses incoming sensor data in real time, Van Der Werff said. The company also employs a software program to pilot and monitor its balloon fleet and has a mission operations center manned with trained flight engineers 24 hours a day, seven days a week, he added.
The balloons can supplement work performed by traditional aircraft and satellites, and stratospheric balloons can be built and launched at a fraction of the cost and time. For example, the cost to launch and operate balloons for weeks or months is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, versus millions — or tens of millions — needed to launch and operate aircraft or satellites.

Not the first time
NASA was flying helium-filled stratospheric balloons as early as the 1950s, and the Army in recent years has experimented with these systems at lower altitudes.
The private sector is also investing in the balloon market. Alphabet deployed balloons in 2017 to provide mobile communications in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria.
In the mid-2010s, the Army was investing in a spy blimp program that it ultimately canceled in 2017. The effort is known as the Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Elevated Netted Sensor System, or JLENS.
The blimp was tethered, unlike the high-altitude balloons, and designed to track boats, ground vehicles, drones and cruise missiles. The balloons DoD is using now are smaller, lighter and can fly considerably higher than the spy blimp.

Starting in 2015, the Army conducted a three-year exercise to determine whether to keep buying JLENS blimps from Raytheon. But the blimp broke free from its mooring station near Baltimore, flying for three hours and eventually landing near Moreland Township, Penn. The Army decided to drop the program. JLENS cost nearly $2 billion to develop and was designed to deploy in U.S. Central Command. “If we can just grow up and get over our hang-ups about the JLENS event, the future can be bright for dirigibles, balloons and aerostats,” Karako said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/0 ... r-00043860
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Every time I read a article about the military using balloons, I remember this incident...

https://www.wgal.com/article/it-s-down- ... ld/6239660#

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