Missing something...or a bug?

gcommie · Post by **gcommie** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:57 pm

Playing around with the tutorial Air Warfare Tutorials > Strike Tutorial > Strike Tutorial - 3 - Complex Strike to learn CMO and things not working out at expected. Have set-up to two ship flight to attack a target and set the WRA for the flight to 2 rnds from 2 units for the specified weapon (KAB-1500Kr-Pr TV/EO [Penetrator]) against all target types. Therefore, was expecting each aircraft to launch a single weapon but despite my best endeavors it appears that the lead aircraft always launches two weapons and the second aircraft launches nothing. Am I missing something or is there a bug?

Note: The attached file (Strike Tutorial #3 - Complex Strike.zip) is a saved game just after the lead aircraft has launched its two weapons.

TIA.

thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:41 pm

In your save, I only see one airborne aircraft. Its a single recon plane heading to base. There are two Mig-23s with the mentioned loadout sitting at the base on an inactive mission. The WRAs for that mission are set for the target's defense value.

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thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:49 pm

I just noticed that most, if not all, strike missions are set as ASW missions. You need Land Strike missions. I also did see that one of the weapons on those Mig-23s I mentioned has a WRA of 2 weapons, but only from 1 aircraft. Thats why your lead is the only one firing. The missions are messed up enough that I'm not really sure what is what with them.

thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:50 pm

I just noticed that most, if not all, strike missions are set as ASW missions. You need Land Strike missions. I also did see that one of the weapons on those Mig-23s I mentioned has a WRA of 2 weapons, but only from 1 aircraft. Thats why your lead is the only one firing. The missions are messed up enough that I'm not really sure what is what with them.

gcommie · Post by **gcommie** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:49 pm

Don't know what to tell you thewood1, but I've just downloaded the ZIP file and extracted the .save file and when I load it the game is as I left it as per the attached screenshots.

To replicate, all I've done in the tutorial is set-up a mission to attack the Zinder Ammo Bunker with 2 x SU-24M2 Fencer D armed with KAB-1500Kr-Pr TV/EO [Penetrator] and set the WRA to 2 rnds from 2 units. The flightplan, which was auto-generated, was simply adjusted to make Waypoint 5, which originally was set as Initial Point (IP), to Weapon Launch and Waypoint 6, which was initially set to Target, to Weapon Target, not that adjusting them makes any difference to the issue of only one aircraft launching and was was done as I'm trying to work out what impact these options have.

BTW, thanks for the prompt feedback.

thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:45 pm

Well one problem solved. I opened the Steam version by mistake and loaded a save that someone had posted a couple years ago. Thats why it was a mess.

thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:08 pm

I couldn't get the wingman to fire unless the weapon allocation was greater then the number of weapons on the leader's plane. I'll play around with it a little more and see what is holding it back.

boogabooga · Post by **boogabooga** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:27 am

gcommie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:57 pm Playing around with the tutorial Air Warfare Tutorials > Strike Tutorial > Strike Tutorial - 3 - Complex Strike to learn CMO and things not working out at expected. Have set-up to two ship flight to attack a target and set the WRA for the flight to 2 rnds from 2 units for the specified weapon (KAB-1500Kr-Pr TV/EO [Penetrator]) against all target types. Therefore, was expecting each aircraft to launch a single weapon but despite my best endeavors it appears that the lead aircraft always launches two weapons and the second aircraft launches nothing. Am I missing something or is there a bug?

You are missing something.

Basically, 'shooters per salvo' is a misleading label. It should be called 'Maximum shooters per salvo'. It sets a limit and not a distribution. This has been discussed before: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 0&t=377732

Bespoke weapons distributions should be handled via the 'Manual Engage Target' option.

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